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Mar 29, 2020
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StalwartBraveTrue
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Social distancing. Slow transmission. Give science time to find an answer.
Take the 30,000 foot view. Not the 10 foot view.
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Flattening the curve seems like a myth to me
korihor
3/29/20 10:02am
epidemiological statisticians disagree. There are several models
Archaea
3/29/20 10:06am
2-3 months?
HRCougar
3/29/20 10:09am
When you have two bad options, you take the least bad.
Archaea
3/29/20 10:16am
There are more than 2 options.
boogers
3/29/20 10:18am
I choose the false dichotomy.
cracka
3/29/20 10:52am
you just don't want to "save lives" over saving your 401k
boogers
3/29/20 11:01am
Would make economic damage>>>>lives saved
boogers
3/29/20 10:17am
And do we want enough people getting sick now up to hospital capacity to avoid a
Odysseus
3/29/20 10:07am
It's shocking to me that vaccines have been around since the 1800's and it
Harbinger
3/29/20 10:07am
It doesn't. The FDA does.
Backcountry
3/29/20 10:08am
You would think in the midst of a pandemic they'd cut all the red tape.
Harbinger
3/29/20 10:09am
I've seen enough zombie movies to know this could be a problem.
svenot
3/29/20 10:11am
Sadly I think this is exactly why the public isn't asking for the FDA's head
Harbinger
3/29/20 10:12am
This is untrue. There are shortcuts but to allow a vaccine to be used
Archaea
3/29/20 10:11am
Compassionate use is a shortcut that can be used. Link.
Archaea
3/29/20 10:14am
Did that in 1974 for the Swine flu and the live vaccine killed a bunch of people
bluelands
3/29/20 10:21am
It's not 1974 anymore.
Harbinger
3/29/20 10:24am
^^This guy volunteers to be the first test subject.
SPgoofyft
3/29/20 11:06am
I already have it lol
Harbinger
3/29/20 11:10am
Some just liked Jimmy Carter's accent. Personally, I thought he was nutty.
CougarThug
3/29/20 12:01pm
Peanutty
pegushin
3/29/20 1:23pm
If this was killing say 10% or more across all demographics they would
ABCoug
3/29/20 11:17am
Unless you are fixated on intermediate endpoints, you need time to
Archaea
3/29/20 10:10am
What’s more shocking is the number of people who refuse to get the ones we
Nakedbootleg
3/29/20 11:13am
The answer all along has been to beef up ICU capacity, let people go about their
Backcountry
3/29/20 10:07am
That sounds a bit sloppy but we could modify the German
Archaea
3/29/20 10:28am
Nursing home access in ID was restricted three weeks ago.
CougarThug
3/29/20 12:04pm
How do you beef up ICU capacity?
BYU'01
3/29/20 11:24am
Start manufacturing new machines early and utilize OR ventilators as needed.
Backcountry
3/29/20 11:26am
None of which builds the buildings necessary to hold all those icu beds
BYU '80
3/29/20 1:09pm
Theres nothing special about an icu bed. Any unut can be turned into overflow.
Backcountry
3/29/20 1:34pm
Uh not really. Might be true in some cases but not like you imagine.
BYU '80
3/29/20 5:53pm
Best answer is not to put people in the icu. Case fatality is uncertain but
StalwartBraveTrue
3/29/20 11:26am
Doesnt compare to the economic toll this is taking.
Backcountry
3/29/20 11:27am
That’s not the point.
StalwartBraveTrue
3/29/20 3:49pm
What is the smartest way to go?
Stalwartbob
3/29/20 11:28am
Social distancing. Slow transmission. Give science time to find an answer.
StalwartBraveTrue
3/29/20 3:51pm
This is the point of it. Just need enough slowdown to get the ICUs ready with
Resurgens
3/29/20 2:46pm
Except less people would "go about their business than you would think"
hardcorecoug
3/30/20 3:32pm
Would China be reopening Wuhan if the threat
bald man
3/29/20 10:10am
Yes. The idea that China values human life is laughable.
Harbinger
3/29/20 10:12am
They may not value it like a western society, but they
bald man
3/29/20 10:18am
They won't. There's nothing about this that can cost them anything.
Harbinger
3/29/20 10:25am
True. China doesn't care but doesn't wish to lose face with the world.
Archaea
3/29/20 10:30am
I imagine it is still running through China rapidly.....
beauso79
3/29/20 11:29am
The Chinese people don't believe their own government's CV-19 propaganda
CougarThug
3/29/20 12:07pm
It’s a hoax
Stalwartbob
3/29/20 12:18pm
All they have to do is use their defective tests. They can say they are testing
N8Dawg
3/29/20 3:59pm
I'm very optimistic actually
CSoul
3/29/20 10:15am
I agree with most of that, but I think NYC was late to the quarantine game.
coug almighty
3/29/20 10:31am
Kept the subway system open....
Benfica1
3/29/20 10:36am
The last part of my post addressed that. Doing it earlier
CSoul
3/29/20 10:36am
Minor point of contention with first sentence of second paragraph
Resurgens
3/29/20 2:48pm
What about NY has turned/peaked?
BYU'01
3/29/20 3:48pm
This video is worth your time to help understand various factors
Indy Coug
3/29/20 10:18am
a couple comments
korihor
3/29/20 1:40pm
Quick, mandatory testing of everyone admitted to a public event to the rescue.
JmThms
3/30/20 7:41am
I think widespread, regular testing is key. I could see normal life partially
Hypnotoad
3/29/20 10:36am
Or just use a temperature check and everyone knows to check every morning
ABCoug
3/29/20 11:21am
Agreed
BYU '80
3/29/20 1:16pm
This. The church asked my missionary son to check every morning and evening.
Benfica1
3/29/20 1:36pm
Why did the loving, merciful God make/let this happen?
Stalwartbob
3/29/20 11:23am
Answer: Because w/o struggle & difficulty there is no growth. Period.
BleedCougarBlue2
3/29/20 3:08pm
This may be difficult for people
AZ Coug
3/30/20 12:12am
It is difficult for me and I have a question or two regarding your theory
Stalwartbob
3/30/20 2:26am
History and the scriptures are full of examples of famine, war & pestilence
Benfica1
3/30/20 8:24am
You are correct, life happens.
Stalwartbob
3/30/20 11:00am
Ask him yourself.
Benfica1
3/30/20 11:18am
Sorry to hear about your Father, smoking is a terrible habit.
Stalwartbob
3/30/20 12:07pm
The main point of flattening the curve isn't to reduce the total number of cases
mudpupper
3/29/20 11:50am
If you want to educate yourself: watch this to learn the math and why/how
flyzag
3/29/20 11:50am
It's kind of a hit or myth proposition anyway.
CougarThug
3/29/20 11:56am
Myth or not
Zoobieman
3/29/20 1:02pm
Boardname checks out.
StalwartBraveTrue
3/29/20 5:00pm
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