Crowton was just a poor HC and the rest of his career is an example of that.

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Jun 26, 2017
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Author

Time

Recruiting thoughts

The Y's Insider

6/21/17 2:58pm

Time will tell, but Kalani's greatest impact will likely be recruiting

SaturdaySpecialDay

6/21/17 3:19pm

Here's to hoping he can pick coaches and delegate like Lavell

Q-grr

6/22/17 2:08am

^^ Proof that it's possible to be grateful to Bronco for what he did and not

gwalker

6/21/17 3:20pm

He just stayed 5 years too long

VirginiaYewt

6/21/17 3:23pm

Absolutely. And put BYU in a place to be relevant in the college football

gwalker

6/21/17 3:30pm

maybe ... would Kalani, Ty, Lamb, et al have been ready 5 yrs ago?

ManicBlue

6/21/17 4:15pm

Probably not, I was suggesting we hire Saban as the placeholder coach

VirginiaYewt

6/21/17 5:12pm

He created a firm plateau for a great foundation

Q-grr

6/22/17 2:10am

but wasn't that ship already righting itself prior to Bronco?

icecougar

6/22/17 2:53pm

If you think the ship was righting itself before Bronco, you are in the extreme minority

Indy Coug

6/22/17 3:06pm

*Images of Crowton doused in gasoline diving into the burning barn to rescue the basket of rotten eggs*

Q-grr

6/22/17 3:39pm

I'm certain I am, I'm not one to let my emotions take over my intellect or...

icecougar

6/22/17 5:19pm

Tell me about it. I miss the days only 17 offers were made. It was exciting

Y4LYFE

6/21/17 3:28pm

Much of that was dealing with the fallout from players being kicked out of

gwalker

6/21/17 3:31pm

He also seriously set his own handicaps against himself

Y4LYFE

6/21/17 3:44pm

And the CB legend grows. He never said that. And yes he did recruit.

basman

6/21/17 3:51pm

It was written in his contract.

Y4LYFE

6/21/17 6:05pm

I can personally attest that he did recruit. You don't know what you're talking

coolblue

6/21/17 4:34pm

When became HC yes, but that doesnt mean he went from hating it to loving it

Y4LYFE

6/21/17 6:06pm

Of course he recruited. He just hated and was terrible at it.

Backcountry

6/21/17 6:21pm

Amazing he won 99 games considering how much he sucked at everything he did

StantonMac

6/21/17 8:30pm

He only sucked at recruiting. I would call him an average to above average coach

Backcountry

6/21/17 8:52pm

He was a witch as a DC given the talent he had recruited.

Y'zFan

6/21/17 9:51pm

not amazing, it's called scheduling 6-8 cupcakes and cream puffs every season...

icecougar

6/22/17 5:29pm

Bronco was the right guy to hire. We needed someone like him to restore much

Rise Against

6/21/17 3:36pm

It's true. He was the right guy to turn around. Just overstayed 5 years IMO

Y4LYFE

6/21/17 3:45pm

Yup. He left the program in much better shape than he found it.

Delicate Genius

6/21/17 5:03pm

Imagine Joe Glen dropping the Bird to KW on a BYU sideline

Q-grr

6/22/17 2:13am

I don't agree that it was declining rapidly and tanking.

Lip Gallagher

6/21/17 3:34pm

I like Bronco and will rarely criticize him

Goatnapper'96

6/21/17 3:44pm

Agree wholeheartedly

cracka

6/21/17 3:55pm

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BYUMizzou

6/21/17 4:47pm

+1. And the children. Just the cutest little things

Backcountry

6/21/17 6:25pm

Very well said

gurt

6/22/17 4:14am

Pretty fair take as well.

Y'zFan

6/21/17 4:03pm

Despite all that Bronco won a lot of games

newbie

6/21/17 3:42pm

I wouldn't say that about his staff over the years.

Lip Gallagher

6/21/17 3:53pm

Bronco had a passion for recruiting his LB's and Safeties but not...

icecougar

6/22/17 5:28pm

thanks to some pretty easy schedules...

icecougar

6/22/17 5:22pm

great post. Thanks for sharing

Str8tCashCougar

6/21/17 3:48pm

I also worry that, under Kalani, we might see what I call the "Texas Effect"

newbie

6/21/17 3:51pm

good point

SactOWNit

6/21/17 4:12pm

Nothing like a troll to back up a silly comment. Double confirmation

Lip Gallagher

6/21/17 4:16pm

but I'm right though

SactOWNit

6/21/17 4:21pm

All first year players. Also, Troy Warner was awesome. When Trinnaman was thrown to, he did well

YIsForBrigham

6/21/17 4:32pm

about what?

Lip Gallagher

6/22/17 3:44pm

Considering that only a handful of players from the 2016 class saw the field in

SactOWNit

6/23/17 11:23pm

RE: Considering that only a handful of players from the 2016 class saw the field

FindYourY

8/9/17 2:46pm

Sitake worked with and developed a lot of players at Utah that were drafted

here's to hoping

6/21/17 5:15pm

Could be true, but that is on the coach. Other coaches

Thrill

6/21/17 8:42pm

Case in point

B-Master Coug

6/21/17 3:55pm

Sounds like our chances with Tommy have passed by. But then again, I wouldn't

The Lone Star Cougar

6/21/17 4:05pm

How is Frank Jackson not picking BYU Bronco's fault?

Seasider

6/21/17 3:57pm

Wasn't trying to correlate Frank with Bronco...

The Y's Insider

6/21/17 6:38pm

I thought your point was clear enough

Unibro

6/22/17 11:40am

You forgot one thing. Sitake has Tuiaki, Lamb and Ty Freaking Detmer. That is

cougaman

6/21/17 7:05pm

Makes Sense. Great Post. Would love to

TFL

6/21/17 7:58pm

The most accurate part of your post is the statement about it being unknown if

BeardedSpock

6/21/17 8:04pm

You really don't think recruiting tanked under Bronco?

Backcountry

6/21/17 8:38pm

It "tanked" but it wasn't due to Bronco. It was due to lack of P5 status

BeardedSpock

6/22/17 7:02pm

It was clearly a combination of the two.

Backcountry

6/22/17 7:12pm

Going .500 against the big boys with all of the disadvantages ain't bad

BYU '80

6/21/17 11:10pm

Good post. Thanks for the insight

Judge Judy

6/21/17 9:30pm

Boom! Love every word.

CougaRR4L

6/21/17 10:10pm

Great stuff. We need more posts from you......

BabyOx

6/21/17 10:25pm

To me, the biggest difference between Bronco and Kalani is the intangibles

LV Mike

6/22/17 7:59am

Very well said my friend.

TheLoneCougar

6/22/17 8:19am

Another key difference: player development and aspirations.

Real Men Wear Blue

6/22/17 9:49am

So you're saying Bronco had pride issues? Agreed. However I disagree with...

icecougar

6/22/17 2:25pm

IMO, you're revising history. Yes, Crowton left some talent behind. But there

gwalker

6/22/17 3:58pm

I keep hearing that the church was ready to can BYU football. Proof?

Backcountry

6/22/17 4:28pm

right, I only hear it here on CB, never read it in the DN or the SLT

icecougar

6/22/17 5:23pm

I swear it was just created by CB and is part of the echo chamber now

Backcountry

6/22/17 5:42pm

that kind of thing drives me nuts.

icecougar

6/23/17 4:30pm

fan pessimism (or optimism) is entirely separate and disconnected from reality..

icecougar

6/22/17 5:13pm

A few things I take issue with...

here's to hoping

6/23/17 12:29am

the reason I only shared those facts is because I NEVER hear those facts get...

icecougar

6/23/17 6:03pm

also, playing tough schedules can do two things (win or lose) for a team...

icecougar

6/23/17 6:16pm

You make more compelling points in these two posts, and while Crowton was

here's to hoping

6/23/17 11:12pm

Crowton was just a poor HC and the rest of his career is an example of that.

TheLoneCougar

6/26/17 8:27am

I don't know, the rest of his career was spent as on OC at various schools...

icecougar

6/28/17 11:29am

That is somewhat immaterial. He was an OC on stacked LSU team, which he does

TheLoneCougar

6/29/17 10:19am

transitions...

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