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Jan 8, 2020
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Soupie
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So much of that is reflected in the decision making and failing to use the rest of the team's assets.
Too quick to go to hero ball whether running himself & launching himself or staring down WR's in thick coverage.
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Who is going to start at QB next year? How close will the competition be?
buckeyecougarguy
1/8/20 12:25pm
Wilson. Not really that close.
reagan21
1/8/20 12:27pm
Wilson's decision making in crucial moments of a game is something I am having a hard time getting over.
TheLoneCougar
1/8/20 12:29pm
I’m in the same boat.
PessimisticCB
1/8/20 12:29pm
He can be a drive killer.
Turn and Cough
1/8/20 12:30pm
Not just a drive killer, but a game killer. His turnovers and mistakes led to at least three losses last season.
SpiffCoug
1/8/20 10:33pm
To add salt to the wound
Blue2thebone
1/9/20 1:39pm
I hear he grew up a Ute fan
SpiffCoug
1/9/20 2:42pm
did not improve from year 1 to 2 which is the biggest concern
BigYfan
1/8/20 12:38pm
He wasn’t healthy so it’s hard to say what will happen
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:39pm
He was healthy last year at BSU, this year at Toledo, SDSU, and Hawaii.
TheLoneCougar
1/8/20 12:51pm
Relatively. Think his thumb was still bothering him some at end but that wasn't the issue in those games.
Soupie
1/8/20 12:53pm
He never had lots of reps. BSU was third statt
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 1:01pm
Third start or not, that was the beginning of showing signs of bad decision making and it extended into this year.
TheLoneCougar
1/8/20 1:03pm
I don’t disagree
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 1:11pm
Well to be sure we should give him 2 more years. I'm sure there will be good...
icecougar
1/8/20 7:36pm
His thumb shouldn't impact his decision-making.
Dangerous
1/8/20 12:58pm
Reps
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 1:00pm
He had no offseason work; it shouldn’t have been a susprise
Coop
1/8/20 12:49pm
Either way regression was a surprise
kimdaddy35
1/8/20 12:53pm
he got worse
icecougar
1/8/20 2:23pm
Lol
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 3:31pm
RE: Lol
icecougar
1/8/20 7:21pm
You said they killed it
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 8:09pm
killed it doesn't mean insane. killed it means they did well...
icecougar
1/8/20 8:35pm
RE: Lol
Fakalata
1/8/20 8:30pm
This year the list of excuses why he didn't improve were pretty long...
icecougar
1/8/20 7:30pm
He didn’t get hardly any reps from Potato Bowl to Utah
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:38pm
I certainly hope so! But decision making isn't necessarily about reps.
TheLoneCougar
1/8/20 12:52pm
It’s all about reps. Obviously you can still make bad decisions with reps
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:57pm
Romney had many fewer reps than Wilson and his decision making was better
The Chelsea Dagger
1/8/20 4:08pm
Wrong
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 6:49pm
wrong about what? that he had fewer reps than ZW or that he had better decision
icecougar
1/8/20 7:25pm
Reps
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 8:10pm
Jaren Hall, I hope. It will be an interesting spring and fall camp, that's4sho
AntiSNOT
1/8/20 7:07pm
I just don't see them going away from Wilson unless he is falling apart...
PJMort
1/8/20 12:31pm
I count critical turnovers at the goal line and pick-6's that lose games for us
Dangerous
1/8/20 12:32pm
I would agree with that... but game 1 will be Wilson.
PJMort
1/8/20 12:51pm
I wouldn't be surprised to see Hal transfer unless he realizes there is 0 chance
reagan21
1/8/20 12:35pm
I would be less surprised if Hall gave up football after 2 concussions in 2
crack
1/8/20 12:44pm
RE: I wouldn't be surprised to see Hal transfer unless he realizes there is 0
Shihan
1/8/20 2:20pm
My biggest question is his throwing accuracy and strength
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:36pm
So much of that is reflected in the decision making and failing to use the rest of the team's assets.
Soupie
1/8/20 12:43pm
He needs to get comfortable throwing. Start from the bottom and rework.
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:47pm
I liked Hall the best out of the bunch!
jpal1397
1/8/20 12:55pm
He looked good but still pretty raw
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:59pm
No way! Wilson runs like a QB but Hall runs like a RB. Big difference to me.
jpal1397
1/8/20 8:13pm
Wilson doesn’t shy away from hits
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 8:18pm
How many times has he tried to leap over people? Against Hawaii it cost us a TD.
Soupie
1/8/20 8:31pm
I don’t mind when the QB sticks the ball over the shoulders of a guy standing on
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 9:01pm
That's not what he did and you know it.
Soupie
1/8/20 9:09pm
Pretty close actually
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 9:17pm
and that's part of the problem...
icecougar
1/9/20 11:39am
Was that the qb from Baylor, who went out with another concussion in the game?
PJMort
1/8/20 1:00pm
I would say it's close. Wilson was a bottom third NCAA QB this year.
Dangerous
1/8/20 12:31pm
Yeah it’s that clear cut. Cuz he’s been so lights out and all...
Gerald-DeGroot
1/8/20 1:05pm
...because coaches are blinded by his "Mormon Manziel" hype...
icecougar
1/8/20 2:18pm
He will get coached up by our elite coaching staff. He’ll be fine.
Gerald-DeGroot
1/8/20 6:17pm
Romney. Close
BlueFrog
1/8/20 12:30pm
I could see Romney taking over at some point. I think Wilson starts game 1.
PJMort
1/8/20 12:32pm
i also think Romney will improve a bunch
BlueFrog
1/8/20 12:33pm
Wilson will probably throw a bunch of INT's against Utah and then they'll
Dangerous
1/8/20 12:34pm
doubt it. Wilson is QB1 for life
icecougar
1/8/20 7:39pm
Program is all in with Wilson..
cougfanz
1/8/20 12:31pm
Why are they all in? He is .500 against G5 teams and has made some
Dangerous
1/8/20 12:35pm
I agree. I personally would have made the swap.
cougfanz
1/8/20 12:42pm
RE: Why are they all in? He is .500 against G5 teams and has made some
Fakalata
1/8/20 6:30pm
I feel implosion was what we saw against SDSU & Hawaii already.
Soupie
1/8/20 12:36pm
Agree, for better or for worse. This staff seems to be unwilling to make changes
fredgarvin
1/8/20 12:39pm
There's no reason to be. He has tools but he has yet to put it all together.
Ash
1/8/20 1:54pm
they let Tanner start half way through his senior year when it was obvious...
icecougar
1/8/20 8:01pm
I'm not worried as much with who starts as I am with them having an actual
kimdaddy35
1/8/20 12:42pm
Romney was the best QB this year and it wasn't that close.
blackshirts
1/8/20 12:44pm
LOL
shakarocks
1/8/20 12:45pm
Let me now LOL at those of you who gave me thumbs down
shakarocks
1/8/20 9:06pm
you're right, he and Hall were pretty close
icecougar
1/10/20 6:59pm
I honestly think it might of been Hall. We just didn't get to see him healthy.
mudpupper
1/8/20 12:48pm
I agree that Hall (when healthy) looked to be the best overall. Romney makes smart decisions to manage
Soupie
1/8/20 12:51pm
we don't need a hero, just a guy to execute plays and move the sticks...
icecougar
1/8/20 7:42pm
RE: we don't need a hero, just a guy to execute plays and move the sticks...
Fakalata
1/8/20 8:34pm
that's what makes a message board great. If everyone agreed with everyone it...
icecougar
1/8/20 8:40pm
I actually think Hall has a better arm than Wilson
kimdaddy35
1/8/20 12:52pm
Wilson didn’t have all the tools this year
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:52pm
didn't have it upstairs either
icecougar
1/8/20 7:56pm
That’s true but he showed improvement mid season
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 8:11pm
it's my hope that he does improve...
icecougar
1/8/20 8:45pm
Backups were injured though too
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 9:03pm
Romney had a sore foot in the Liberty game but played through it...
icecougar
1/9/20 12:00pm
Hall has a better arm than Wilson. Watch the USU game and tell me you don't
Dangerous
1/8/20 1:07pm
RE: Romney was the best QB this year and it wasn't that close.
Fakalata
1/8/20 6:32pm
Funny, is Romney's worse game was better than ZW best game.
blackshirts
1/8/20 8:22pm
Ratings don’t tell the whole story
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 9:04pm
I don't have any actual knowledge, but it seems like Wilson was still not 100%
crack
1/8/20 12:47pm
He may have been 100% healthy at one time
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 12:50pm
Here’s my take. It’s not worth much, but it’s what I believe
gww687
1/8/20 1:24pm
Can he? People say this but I'm beginning to think it's a myth born at the potato bowl."He can make every throw."
Soupie
1/8/20 1:34pm
RE: Can he? People say this but I'm beginning to think it's a myth born at the
gww687
1/8/20 1:36pm
Again. I'm talking about decision making not the act of throwing it. That's only part of being QB.
Soupie
1/8/20 1:39pm
“Make every throw” refers to throwing ability and not decisions
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 3:38pm
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Soupie
1/8/20 3:48pm
You're only wrong about one thing
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:18pm
So theoretically.
Soupie
1/8/20 4:25pm
Yes, it means "does your QB have the physical capabilities to make a throw
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:38pm
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Soupie
1/8/20 6:12pm
He isn't making every throw. And more important than that is he's making the
Ash
1/8/20 1:57pm
"But BYU really needs a playmaker at QB"
icecougar
1/8/20 8:25pm
Many BYU fans have become enamored with running QB's because it was bronco's
Ash
1/8/20 10:30pm
I think that's been a common misconception. It's like fools gold..
icecougar
1/9/20 11:54am
Taysom and C Stew comparison wasn’t very accurate
puntersarepeople
1/9/20 2:56pm
RE: Taysom and C Stew comparison wasn’t very accurate
icecougar
1/9/20 7:34pm
"He can make every throw"...except on 3rd and 2 in the flat with the game on...
icecougar
1/9/20 2:38pm
Hopefully it's truly an open competition. With Wilson not throwing until a
Super Chicken
1/8/20 1:39pm
Wilson is way more confident
Vegasjohn
1/8/20 8:32pm
Should be Romney, but probably won't.
lightmann
1/8/20 1:50pm
RE: Should be Romney, but probably won't.
Fakalata
1/8/20 6:34pm
It should be who looks like the right QB for the team
gww687
1/8/20 7:36pm
If wins is what is right for the team, . . . that would be Romney.
lightmann
1/9/20 2:41pm
How about the one with the best winning percentage? (Romney)
Cougar Junkie
1/8/20 3:24pm
Jaren Hall, I hope. It will be an interesting spring and fall camp, that's4sho
AntiSNOT
1/8/20 7:09pm
Wilson and the staff won’t seriously consider anyone else.
wilsdad
1/8/20 9:51pm
RE: Wilson and the staff won’t seriously consider anyone else.
Vegasjohn
1/8/20 11:35pm
What could be worse than having a disappointing starting QB who also is a huge
Blue2thebone
1/8/20 11:38pm
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