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Gruden gets canned for private emails and in the same breath they talk about the possible landing spots for Deshaun
Hank Rearden
Truly Addicted User
10/24/21 8:02pm
Not really. It’s unacceptable for people in Gruden’s status to talk like that
BlooCoog
10/24/21 8:06pm
Saying words in emails is equal to or worse than rape and or sexual assault? That’s ridiculous. And yes, I know that
Zach Morris
10/24/21 8:15pm
"The allegations against Watson are even more unacceptable and egregious"
Charles Darwin
10/24/21 8:16pm
Reminds me of this Norm McDonald treasure
Probable Sacko
10/24/21 8:32pm
So funny
pink22
10/24/21 8:39pm
One of my favorite episodes of Comedians in Cars.
Kavorka
10/24/21 8:56pm
When over 20 women have made the same allegation toward Watson
Carnac
10/24/21 8:53pm
Serious question, why is he not playing right now?
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 8:56pm
I am guessing he isn't playing because he is likely to be in prison soon
Carnac
10/24/21 8:58pm
But who’s keeping him from playing? Houston? The NFL? Himself?
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 9:05pm
AFAIK he told Houston he'd never play for them again BEFORE the allegations and
Bainge
10/24/21 10:39pm
But western society is allowing a bizarre wholesale change of the the rules and laws. We have catapulted mean words and
Zach Morris
10/24/21 8:58pm
Do you have an example of this? I don’t think this is the case at all.
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 9:06pm
He could still be president of the US.
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:12pm
I invite him to run, then.
Carnac
10/24/21 9:18pm
It would have to be as a Republican.
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:38pm
RE: It would have to be as a Republican.
Cru Jones
10/24/21 9:59pm
Well, the former president of the US was accused of sexual assault by multiple
BlooCoog
10/24/21 10:00pm
I'd have no problem with that.
Carnac
10/24/21 10:12pm
Uh...did you read the post? I didn't say that.
BlooCoog
10/24/21 10:09pm
Courts don't matter at all.
bluecheese
10/25/21 9:53am
Maybe Mark Davis was looking for a way to dump Gruden?
JuicyJam
10/24/21 8:07pm
BTW, Gruden voluntarily resigned. You could argue that it was done under duress
SJS
10/24/21 8:14pm
I’ve talked to a couple die hard Raiders fans that aren’t too sad Gruden is gone
pink22
10/24/21 8:56pm
Did you even watch that whole segment? They're talking about Watson
SJS
10/24/21 8:12pm
Why are teams even willing to trade for Watson?
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 8:17pm
At this point no one has right?
Charles Darwin
10/24/21 8:19pm
I keep seeing that a deal to Miami is close, but who knows
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 8:27pm
RE: Why are teams even willing to trade for Watson?
SJS
10/24/21 8:21pm
They’re calling because, if he’s innocent, now is the time to act
Alpi Gusto
10/24/21 8:23pm
I guess that’s true, but it seems almost certain he’s guilty of something
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 8:29pm
Oh, for sure. I’m not saying he’s innocent at all
Alpi Gusto
10/24/21 9:32pm
Apparently "innocent until proven guilty" only applies if you're not black.
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:14pm
Why do some people not get bail?
Carnac
10/24/21 9:21pm
I’m not even making a statement on his innocence or guilt
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 9:23pm
Neither will most of the NFL
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:29pm
Richie Incognito plays for the Raiders. How ironic is that?
bluelands
10/24/21 8:12pm
It’s not really a mystery. If you’re good enough, they don’t care what you do
Alpi Gusto
10/24/21 8:17pm
That's not quite it. But the thought police would strike me down for saying it
jrifkin48
10/24/21 8:24pm
Can you show me a guy that “got away with it” who wasn’t elite?
Alpi Gusto
10/24/21 8:43pm
Cosby got off. OJ did well. Bill Clinton is enjoying life.
jrifkin48
10/24/21 8:45pm
I’m not sure you know this, but Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby did not play in the
Alpi Gusto
10/24/21 10:16pm
You are correct. I'll also throw Ray Lewis in the mix as well.
jrifkin48
10/24/21 10:25pm
So do you belive it's no big deal to say racist stuff?
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 8:27pm
Do you believe it’s no big deal to sexually assault women?
JollyGreenGiant
10/24/21 8:28pm
No. Huge deal.
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:05pm
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Hank Rearden
10/24/21 8:32pm
That’s exactly what he said. He said, “There’s nothing wrong with racism”
UNLVcougar
10/24/21 8:40pm
He downplays it by calling it "private emails."
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:07pm
That’s not downplaying if. That’s describing where the racist words were located
UNLVcougar
10/24/21 9:44pm
And showing the contrast, to drive home the point that the NFL brass are an embarrassment
Hank Rearden
10/24/21 9:51pm
Do you believe in false dichotomies?
Carnac
10/24/21 8:58pm
Racist words are disappointing and should not be said but they are still just words. If they create and or influence
Zach Morris
10/24/21 9:01pm
Are one's words, said in private, reflective of one's character?
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:08pm
Is it illegal to have a bad character?
Carnac
10/24/21 9:10pm
Gruden just lost his job, he’s not being prosecuted for anything
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 9:12pm
“Just lost his job”. Let’s imagine you losing your job over arbitrary words and descriptions
Zach Morris
10/24/21 9:16pm
*Just voluntarily resigned
SJS
10/24/21 9:17pm
*Was required to voluntarily resign or else be fired.
Zach Morris
10/24/21 9:25pm
Link? Certainly possible, but I haven't seen that confirmed.
SJS
10/24/21 9:27pm
"Arbitrary"... Yikes...
jamfam
10/24/21 9:24pm
Imagine keeping your job after sticking your stick
Carnac
10/24/21 9:25pm
I think I would rightfully lose my job if I did what Gruden did
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 9:25pm
I would lose my job for either Gruden or Watson behavior.
Carnac
10/24/21 9:26pm
Sure, that’s my point. But certain people can get away with rape or domestic violence with little to no repercussions
Zach Morris
10/24/21 9:27pm
Who’s actually getting away with it?
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 9:35pm
You keep acting like Gruden is going to jail for his "arbitrary" words. He
jamfam
10/24/21 9:35pm
Dude--let me tell you how this works in the world of narcissists.
Carnac
10/24/21 10:16pm
I think there is a very good chance that it went down exactly like you say but
jamfam
10/24/21 10:27pm
Assuming the emails were really written by him, do you think he still should not
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:26pm
Admittedly, I have not read each and every email. Yes, some words are a fireable offense and perhaps he should be fired
Zach Morris
10/24/21 9:35pm
Dude, anybody in the world would lose their job for these types of e-mails.
akmewg
10/25/21 12:46am
Is Gruden being put in jail?
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:13pm
Do we have evidence that Watson has "bad character?"
Carnac
10/24/21 9:19pm
Gruden resigned. He apparently did not contest the validity of the emails.
SoCalCoug
10/24/21 9:24pm
Just like politics and the media. If you are on their side, you play by
SoValleyCOUG
10/24/21 8:32pm
Gruden, Ray Rice, Kaepernick, Roethlisberger, Watson, Kobe, Tyreek, AB
Odysseus
10/24/21 8:38pm
Don’t really feel like it’s fair to put Kaep on this list
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 8:43pm
If anything it illustrates the point even more. Tebow could be on the list as
Odysseus
10/24/21 8:48pm
To me it was just what the players did to cause the distraction..
PHXSUNS31
10/24/21 8:53pm
Good enough at what? Being an NFL quarterback? Tebow wasn’t good at that.
pink22
10/24/21 8:58pm
Tim Tebow won a playoff game. Threw the game winning TD.
jrifkin48
10/24/21 10:45pm
Yes I remember
pink22
10/24/21 11:24pm
Tebow was terrible and so was Kap. If they were better, they would have a job
Alpi Gusto
10/24/21 10:18pm
Kaep was better than Tebow. But Kaep made a business decision too
jrifkin48
10/24/21 10:48pm
I agree with that. I should have said “Kaep wasn’t good enough to start,”
Alpi Gusto
10/24/21 11:13pm
Deshaun always gets a happy ending...
jpesk2
10/24/21 8:38pm
I’m confused at what you are complaining about? Are you complaining that Gruden
akmewg
10/25/21 1:18am
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