So what metrics will you allow us to use then when analyzing the defense?

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Jan 17, 2022
2:22:43pm

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Particularly individual players? The eye test?

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Only 1 of top 10 rated returners from the D, interesting it isn’t Pili or Wilgar

BYUfan92

1/17/22 12:37pm

He easily played 50 snaps

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:38pm

Playing football is not easy

Sea Chicken

1/17/22 12:39pm

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Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:41pm

I thought so too - but if so then shocked he isn’t rated highly

BYUfan92

1/17/22 12:46pm

It's only shocking to people desperate to excuse Tuiaki. Pili is a nice player,

ldssdl

1/17/22 12:48pm

You can check my history- I’m pretty anti Tuiaki, but thought Pili would have

BYUfan92

1/17/22 2:28pm

Sorry, I wasn't calling you out per se. Even I was surprised to some degree that

ldssdl

1/17/22 3:10pm

Except he did.

slatecoug

1/17/22 10:41pm

No DL even close to sniffing that list is a huge problem. OL is legit. DL is the opposite of it.

Turnpike Lane

1/17/22 12:40pm

I think we will be ok on the ends but I hope we bring in some interior lineman

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:44pm

What makes you think we’ll be okay at end?

I'mBatman

1/17/22 1:00pm

I think Lo will be able to handle SDE and

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 1:11pm

Ya. Interesting the 3rd string OT made the list and no one from DL

Mot

1/17/22 4:22pm

Pili wasn't that highly rated according to PFF. But that doesn't change the fact that he was probably our most

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 12:42pm

Is Pili a future Pro-Bowler? I doubt even Fed Warner would swing a defense from

ldssdl

1/17/22 12:45pm

The truth is the defense was bad even with Pili but got bailed out by turnovers

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:49pm

Probably not, but a huge part of the drop off was because no one else on our team could play that position.

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 1:00pm

Wilgar struggled at times last year

I'mBatman

1/17/22 1:05pm

He was much better before they put him in Pili's position

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 1:09pm

this

Socrates Johnson

1/17/22 5:22pm

Yeah, Pili took a huge hit because of coverage. Run stopping and pass rushing were pretty high.

mokelembembe

1/17/22 12:48pm

And Run stopping and pass rushing were what we sucked at last year.

rcbyufan

1/17/22 3:09pm

So at what point are we allowed to criticize recruiting and player development?

ldssdl

1/17/22 12:42pm

Tuiaki is bad. You know he is really bad when so many are trying to find obscure ways of saying he

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 12:45pm

Likely 10;) He gets a couple of Big12 years to prove what we already know.

CougGolf

1/17/22 12:45pm

Appears Tuiaki can’t recruit or coach. But untouchable so get use to it

fan32

1/17/22 1:56pm

Tuiaki is amazing. I sure hope Hawaii doesn’t realize how amazing he is and take him.

2FarGone

1/17/22 3:03pm

I'm pretty sure until the back half that Malik Moore was our highest rated

darkcoug

1/17/22 12:51pm

His list is his opinion and he has no additional info than cougarboard does

travelcoug

1/17/22 1:03pm

PFF grades

Turnpike Lane

1/17/22 1:07pm

PFF grades are very incomplete and totally subjective. I guess they do empower

travelcoug

1/17/22 1:20pm

So what metrics will you allow us to use then when analyzing the defense?

ldssdl

1/17/22 2:22pm

Well let’s see, when Pili was in The best most physical teams on our schedule

travelcoug

1/17/22 2:36pm

Arizona lost to an FCS school and went 1-11, so holding them to 2.3 ypc on 35

ldssdl

1/17/22 2:50pm

This reminds me of a time when I heard Paul James say that it’s a bad sign if

travelcoug

1/17/22 2:59pm

So, don't trust a team of unbiased professionals grading out BYU players by PFF?

ldssdl

1/17/22 3:08pm

If you adjust the rushing yards by removing sacks and kneel downs —

wjman11

1/17/22 3:36pm

Running the ball like that, Utah should have blown BYU out. Why didn't they?

slatecoug

1/17/22 10:50pm

Here's what the PFF defensive depth chart would look like....

mokelembembe

1/17/22 1:14pm

Some guys who play a lot don't even make the 2-deep in terms of grades

Socrates Johnson

1/17/22 3:00pm

Suspect rating system, no doubt.

SinkingQuffa

1/17/22 3:22pm

Surprised to see Livingston and Keim

djbryant79

1/17/22 3:33pm

I think he started the season as 3rd string OT. He started a lot last several g

Mot

1/17/22 4:28pm

It’s more than clear that the offense is our strongest unit yet we employ a…

icecougar

1/17/22 5:34pm

We gotta use all the clock on D!! The longer the O is out there the more likely

CougGolf

1/17/22 5:57pm

I can’t take this list seriously with Joe T on it.

stev

1/17/22 5:48pm

That dude that does pro sports ratings that was on BYUSN a couple weeks back

OldFogey

1/17/22 8:23pm

I don't understand why people pay so much credence to PFF? They are extremely overrated.

slatecoug

1/17/22 10:46pm

I don't have the ability to rate any of these players, but overrated or not - he

OldFogey

1/18/22 12:33pm

Why do people pay PFF so much credence?

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