The truth is the defense was bad even with Pili but got bailed out by turnovers

Jan 17, 2022
12:49:14pm

Charles Darwin Truly Addicted User

Many think it was good to start the year because it was more aggressive but the numbers from those games were not good. Having said that the 2020 defense is completely dismissed by people on here and it should not be.

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Only 1 of top 10 rated returners from the D, interesting it isn’t Pili or Wilgar

BYUfan92

1/17/22 12:37pm

He easily played 50 snaps

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:38pm

Playing football is not easy

Sea Chicken

1/17/22 12:39pm

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Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:41pm

I thought so too - but if so then shocked he isn’t rated highly

BYUfan92

1/17/22 12:46pm

It's only shocking to people desperate to excuse Tuiaki. Pili is a nice player,

ldssdl

1/17/22 12:48pm

You can check my history- I’m pretty anti Tuiaki, but thought Pili would have

BYUfan92

1/17/22 2:28pm

Sorry, I wasn't calling you out per se. Even I was surprised to some degree that

ldssdl

1/17/22 3:10pm

Except he did.

slatecoug

1/17/22 10:41pm

No DL even close to sniffing that list is a huge problem. OL is legit. DL is the opposite of it.

Turnpike Lane

1/17/22 12:40pm

I think we will be ok on the ends but I hope we bring in some interior lineman

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:44pm

What makes you think we’ll be okay at end?

I'mBatman

1/17/22 1:00pm

I think Lo will be able to handle SDE and

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 1:11pm

Ya. Interesting the 3rd string OT made the list and no one from DL

Mot

1/17/22 4:22pm

Pili wasn't that highly rated according to PFF. But that doesn't change the fact that he was probably our most

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 12:42pm

Is Pili a future Pro-Bowler? I doubt even Fed Warner would swing a defense from

ldssdl

1/17/22 12:45pm

The truth is the defense was bad even with Pili but got bailed out by turnovers

Charles Darwin

1/17/22 12:49pm

Probably not, but a huge part of the drop off was because no one else on our team could play that position.

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 1:00pm

Wilgar struggled at times last year

I'mBatman

1/17/22 1:05pm

He was much better before they put him in Pili's position

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 1:09pm

this

Socrates Johnson

1/17/22 5:22pm

Yeah, Pili took a huge hit because of coverage. Run stopping and pass rushing were pretty high.

mokelembembe

1/17/22 12:48pm

And Run stopping and pass rushing were what we sucked at last year.

rcbyufan

1/17/22 3:09pm

So at what point are we allowed to criticize recruiting and player development?

ldssdl

1/17/22 12:42pm

Tuiaki is bad. You know he is really bad when so many are trying to find obscure ways of saying he

kimdaddy35

1/17/22 12:45pm

Likely 10;) He gets a couple of Big12 years to prove what we already know.

CougGolf

1/17/22 12:45pm

Appears Tuiaki can’t recruit or coach. But untouchable so get use to it

fan32

1/17/22 1:56pm

Tuiaki is amazing. I sure hope Hawaii doesn’t realize how amazing he is and take him.

2FarGone

1/17/22 3:03pm

I'm pretty sure until the back half that Malik Moore was our highest rated

darkcoug

1/17/22 12:51pm

His list is his opinion and he has no additional info than cougarboard does

travelcoug

1/17/22 1:03pm

PFF grades

Turnpike Lane

1/17/22 1:07pm

PFF grades are very incomplete and totally subjective. I guess they do empower

travelcoug

1/17/22 1:20pm

So what metrics will you allow us to use then when analyzing the defense?

ldssdl

1/17/22 2:22pm

Well let’s see, when Pili was in The best most physical teams on our schedule

travelcoug

1/17/22 2:36pm

Arizona lost to an FCS school and went 1-11, so holding them to 2.3 ypc on 35

ldssdl

1/17/22 2:50pm

This reminds me of a time when I heard Paul James say that it’s a bad sign if

travelcoug

1/17/22 2:59pm

So, don't trust a team of unbiased professionals grading out BYU players by PFF?

ldssdl

1/17/22 3:08pm

If you adjust the rushing yards by removing sacks and kneel downs —

wjman11

1/17/22 3:36pm

Running the ball like that, Utah should have blown BYU out. Why didn't they?

slatecoug

1/17/22 10:50pm

Here's what the PFF defensive depth chart would look like....

mokelembembe

1/17/22 1:14pm

Some guys who play a lot don't even make the 2-deep in terms of grades

Socrates Johnson

1/17/22 3:00pm

Suspect rating system, no doubt.

SinkingQuffa

1/17/22 3:22pm

Surprised to see Livingston and Keim

djbryant79

1/17/22 3:33pm

I think he started the season as 3rd string OT. He started a lot last several g

Mot

1/17/22 4:28pm

It’s more than clear that the offense is our strongest unit yet we employ a…

icecougar

1/17/22 5:34pm

We gotta use all the clock on D!! The longer the O is out there the more likely

CougGolf

1/17/22 5:57pm

I can’t take this list seriously with Joe T on it.

stev

1/17/22 5:48pm

That dude that does pro sports ratings that was on BYUSN a couple weeks back

OldFogey

1/17/22 8:23pm

I don't understand why people pay so much credence to PFF? They are extremely overrated.

slatecoug

1/17/22 10:46pm

I don't have the ability to rate any of these players, but overrated or not - he

OldFogey

1/18/22 12:33pm

Why do people pay PFF so much credence?

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