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Jan 4, 2014
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mwcoug
Can someone please send some of that global warming here for the next few days?
They're predicting temperatures around -20F for the next couple of days. I would really like some of that global warming in January every year.
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Past climate change and evidence for current anthropogenic global warming
Defenestrator
1/4/14 10:01am
Thank you for sharing, I highly doubt people will troll this post.
CougarHut
1/4/14 10:02am
tub fart
Mayor of Cougartown
1/4/14 11:22pm
We'll never get India or China on board with carbon reduction plans. Even if
SandYFan
1/4/14 10:04am
What to do about it is a conversation I would love to have another day.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 10:06am
Like I said, that's all fine and dandy, but it's meaningless. Even if everyone
SandYFan
1/4/14 10:07am
China will change sooner thank you think. India maybe not.
evanshrugged
1/4/14 12:30pm
Ok now show me why I should give a crap
cheezedawg
1/4/14 10:07am
That will be the subject of a follow up topic.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 10:11am
Good thing the earth isn't human!
BYUCoug11
1/4/14 10:15am
It was merely an example to show the drastic effects that seemingly slight
Defenestrator
1/4/14 10:18am
You seem pretty sure that you've convinced everyone with your extremely long
BYUCoug11
1/4/14 10:24am
You can debate the data but to choose to ignore it is ignorant.
RobDog
2/28/17 10:26am
That's a nonsense question.
cheezedawg
1/4/14 10:16am
In my next installment I will show how your question was equally nonsense;)
Defenestrator
1/4/14 10:19am
I look forward to it.
cheezedawg
1/4/14 10:24am
Btw- I assume your next installment will include a cost-benefit analysis of
cheezedawg
1/4/14 10:27am
Unlikely. I'm dealing with the science right now, that is more of a question of
Defenestrator
1/4/14 10:32am
Then what is your point? "Proving" the harmful effects of
cheezedawg
1/4/14 10:49am
While I agree that it is important to separate politics from the science,
Y Mountain
1/4/14 11:10am
RE: While I agree that it is important to separate politics from the science,
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:17am
Nor do I, but I don't think sub-par technology should be implemented if the cost
Y Mountain
1/4/14 11:25am
I agree. Most of our money at this stage should be spent on R&D, not trying to
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:29am
This is the problem. There is no defensible reason for the costs that
Y Mountain
1/4/14 11:07am
The evidence is solid. The question is what can we do about it? I would agree
RobDog
2/28/17 10:40am
can't go it alone? We're among the worst offenders
Dissenter
2/11/19 8:20am
The absurdity of this statement shows why you really aren't qualified to
marcusaurelius
1/4/14 12:57pm
You are reading way too much into that statement. The evidence speaks, not me.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 1:06pm
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Mall Santa
1/4/14 10:24am
So are you a weekend warrior or do you actually have credentials in this field?
WDaddy
1/4/14 10:25am
*crickets* The lack of response tells me all I need to know
WDaddy
1/4/14 10:44am
as soon as we get warmer, all my land holdings in wisconsin will be worth bank.
TN_Coug
1/4/14 10:25am
Global warming is supposedly causing
Cougrrrs Roll
1/4/14 11:42pm
I appreciate your efforts.
PJMort
1/4/14 10:30am
This doesn't seem like an original thought and you copy and pasted
SBJ
1/4/14 10:31am
What blog did he copy and paste from?
dchandle15
1/4/14 10:59am
I think he is refering to the caption that I borrowed from skepticalscience.com
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:09am
Are you a climate scientist?
WDaddy
1/4/14 11:12am
Manbearpig really is real? Who knew
Sgt Schultz
1/4/14 10:35am
Pretty sure your "facts" got debunked yesterday:
Will Stanton
1/4/14 10:37am
Hardly.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 10:40am
So let me get this straight, you are using sources that back up your claim
WhoisJohnGalt
1/4/14 10:59am
You actually have it quite crooked.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:15am
OK, so please explain to me WHY we are not seeing the increase
jdub
1/4/14 10:49am
Please hold while he surfs the internet aggregating information
WDaddy
1/4/14 10:57am
This is my primary question as well.
Y Mountain
1/4/14 11:04am
RE: This is my primary question as well.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:35am
So, you don't know how the oceans are warming,
jdub
1/4/14 11:44am
Not at all. You seem to be ignoring all the fingerprints of warming by caused
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:56am
I appreciate the honesty
Y Mountain
1/4/14 11:48am
I think the key issue here is separating the earth as a whole from individual
Defenestrator
1/4/14 12:00pm
RE: OK, so please explain to me WHY we are not seeing the increase
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:28am
I don't think that answers his (our) question.
Y Mountain
1/4/14 11:32am
You effectively avoided the question
jdub
1/4/14 11:35am
RE: You effectively avoided the question
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:54am
You make the same mistake. Do you really think 60 years is really that long from
marcusaurelius
1/4/14 1:07pm
60 years is more than enough time to factor out all know natural cycles, which
Defenestrator
1/4/14 2:52pm
Except there are 100,000 year cycle and other cycles that don't appear to be
marcusaurelius
1/6/14 4:18pm
Prove it mathematically ... it should be easy to do
youngbuck
1/4/14 11:26am
there was never anything remotely close to any kind of scientific consensus for
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:40am
Since when is science about consensus?
Michael Skarn
1/4/14 3:54pm
And I was pointing out how the media driven ice age scare of the 60/70's was not
Defenestrator
1/4/14 4:07pm
You're actually talking in circles and making false claims
Michael Skarn
1/6/14 2:16pm
The head of the UN IPCC disagrees with you. Temps have not increased for
scvcoug
1/4/14 11:32am
see the topic linked at the beginning of this thread.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 11:37am
I saw the thread, but it still doesn
scvcoug
1/4/14 11:52am
Oops--I saw the thread. It doesn't change the fact that
scvcoug
1/4/14 11:56am
You seem to be confusing atmospheric temperature with global heat content
Defenestrator
1/4/14 12:05pm
Ah yes the magic heat--heat from the sun passes through the atmosphere
scvcoug
1/4/14 10:10pm
This seems like a good research review, but not necessarily great evidence
dchandle15
1/4/14 11:34am
RE: This seems like a good research review, but not necessarily great evidence
Defenestrator
1/4/14 12:05pm
And I understand it takes a long time to do a research review like this one
dchandle15
1/4/14 12:14pm
Yeah, I probably tried to cover too much too quickly.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 12:25pm
It's kind of an interesting discussion to have, you might want to make it a
dchandle15
1/4/14 12:32pm
Now I will try to clear up some of the fuzzy areas and fill in some holes.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 12:39pm
If the point of your posting was just to give research, it is decent
dchandle15
1/4/14 12:55pm
Understandable. Thanks for your constructive input.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 1:07pm
First of all
BigEasyCougar
1/4/14 11:56am
RE: First of all
Defenestrator
1/4/14 12:19pm
RE: First of all
BigEasyCougar
1/4/14 1:25pm
RE: First of all
Defenestrator
1/4/14 1:39pm
Thanks , I will read them
BigEasyCougar
1/4/14 3:08pm
This is spot on. Even if warming is caused by humans there's a lo t of evidence
marcusaurelius
1/4/14 1:19pm
Could I see this evidence for negative feedback loops?
Defenestrator
1/4/14 1:43pm
Well the quick rebalancing of climate after volcanic eruptions is just one quick
marcusaurelius
1/4/14 5:56pm
Can I see the evidence for the positive feedback loop. Certainly not the lack
scvcoug
1/4/14 10:12pm
Adaptation is the best answer I've heard to the problem
riseandshout
1/4/14 4:07pm
That is indeed a huge question.
Defenestrator
1/4/14 5:01pm
I think we are far more likely to solve any climate problems through
marcusaurelius
1/4/14 6:01pm
I wonder how many fossil fuels were required to produce the electricity you used
byutx
1/4/14 12:05pm
Can someone please send some of that global warming here for the next few days?
mwcoug
1/4/14 12:49pm
Thanks ... interesting stuff
coolcats
1/4/14 4:47pm
I read somewhere CO2 from caveman campfires ended the ice age
Francisco d'Anconia
1/4/14 5:11pm
I hear a lot of “so what, nothing can be done, it’s too expensive”, etc.
So it goes...
1/4/14 6:42pm
What the global warming crowd wants to do
Cougrrrs Roll
1/4/14 11:20pm
"No one wants to destroy our environment or pollute the air and water". Yet we
So it goes...
1/5/14 12:10am
It's not about science, it's about liberty or tyranny
Texan
1/4/14 7:13pm
I hate to be the one to give you this breaking news, but 2013 is already over
So it goes...
1/4/14 7:25pm
I think it might still be 2013 in Japan or somewhere.
coolcats
1/4/14 8:31pm
It all proves nothing
Cougrrrs Roll
1/4/14 11:06pm
This will be his response:
WDaddy
1/4/14 11:51pm
Not sure if this has been asked before.
rtNelson
1/5/14 2:11am
Some of the ramifications are discussed in this post and in the article linked
Japan Coug
1/5/14 4:02am
You aren't gonna like the ramifications...
detmer4prez
1/6/14 8:36am
Is it really possible to get the politics out of this?
DazeofBlue
1/5/14 7:37am
Have you seen the latest IPCC report?
jkccoug
1/5/14 12:52pm
For your next trick could you tell us all how vaccines cause autism?
detmer4prez
1/6/14 8:43am
One issue is backed by science one is not. We don't get to just choose what
RobDog
2/28/17 2:55pm
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