Bird was incredible, his advanced stats match up fairly well to Lebron's

May 19, 2015
1:43:47am

kimdaddy35

Lebron has a 116 Offensive Rating, Bird a 115. Lebron has a 102 defensive rating, Bird a 101. Bird's career was cut short over back issues. Lebron has actually already played more games than Bird did in the NBA.

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My "best of" the NBA

kimdaddy35

5/18/15 9:53pm

Can't wait for people to rip you about your PG opinion.

fredetteaboutit13

5/18/15 9:55pm

I wanted to put Jimmer at the top, I just couldn't

kimdaddy35

5/18/15 9:56pm

C has to be either Wilt, Kareem, or Russell. I liked Olajuwon, but the other 3

Zenoch

5/18/15 10:00pm

Statistically I can't argue with you on center

kimdaddy35

5/18/15 10:15pm

Wilt, Kareem and Russell.

PenrynCoug

5/18/15 10:03pm

Karl is the top dog at PF Tim is close but still falls 10954 pts short.

MrF

5/18/15 10:26pm

I think Timmy would take the 5 championships over the points

kimdaddy35

5/18/15 10:28pm

Then you should have Robert Horry as your top PF with 7 rings.

MrF

5/18/15 10:38pm

since when is the game about one stat?

southernfriedcougar

5/18/15 11:51pm

I'd put Malone at PF and Wilt at Center

Josef K

5/18/15 10:31pm

Fairly funny on Malone. Duncan didn't play against the Jordan led Bulls, but he

kimdaddy35

5/18/15 10:41pm

Nah. I absolutely cannot stand the Jazz.

Josef K

5/18/15 10:44pm

Good for you, I like a guy with an original non-biased opinion.

kimdaddy35

5/18/15 10:46pm

yet Malone beats Duncan in almost every statistical category.

MrF

5/18/15 10:51pm

Duncan held his own in statistical categories and when you consider his hardware

bagman

5/18/15 11:47pm

Malone was a true PF. Duncan was more a center.

Josef K

5/19/15 10:00am

But that is all a moot point because

Cougarmus Prime

5/19/15 3:12pm

Not really,

MrF

5/19/15 6:43pm

Anyone who says it was a wash on defense has no idea what they are speaking

kimdaddy35

5/19/15 11:49pm

FWIW

Cougarmus Prime

5/20/15 12:59am

Too much bias.

bagman

5/20/15 2:48am

It's totally unfair to say Duncan was a better defender b/c he had more blocks.

Josef K

5/20/15 8:54am

eyeball test tells me Duncan was 2x the defender as Karl.

thebruce

5/20/15 10:31am

As a pure powerforward - I might choose Malone. As a PF in a team concept - I

Zenoch

5/20/15 10:52am

I like the fact that there's no ego in Duncan's game and his length is a huge

mikeynolikey

5/20/15 11:11am

Go back and watch a 40 year old Karl malone man handle Tim Duncan

MrF

5/20/15 9:28pm

Lol you are making crap up.

thebruce

5/20/15 9:58pm

It is hard for me to have conversations with posters who just make stuff up

kimdaddy35

5/21/15 12:41am

lol I looked up the stats too but didn't think mrF deserved the details.

thebruce

5/21/15 12:51am

All of the highlights are on youtube here is an example.

MrF

5/21/15 12:55am

LOL I was right.

thebruce

5/21/15 12:57am

And Timmy's stats for that game

MrF

5/21/15 1:34am

You are a clown.

thebruce

5/21/15 8:04am

Funny how they doubled Duncan every time when Malone was on him

kimdaddy35

5/21/15 1:21am

And it was working too, having a 40 year old man with a bum knee push

MrF

5/21/15 1:46am

That's fine. I don't care so much about rings.

Josef K

5/18/15 10:55pm

Wait, you say

Cougarmus Prime

5/18/15 11:49pm

You are right, he made the finals as the 4th best player on the

kimdaddy35

5/19/15 1:28am

in fairness though.

thebruce

5/19/15 1:45am

BTW I'm not saying Boris diaw is a possible hof'er

thebruce

5/19/15 1:54am

4th best on the roster?

Cougarmus Prime

5/19/15 3:57pm

RE: 4th best on the roster?

Cougarmus Prime

5/19/15 4:10pm

In just about every method you use he was the #4 guy on that team

kimdaddy35

5/19/15 4:21pm

In the postseason Karl was the best player on the Lakers for a few games

thebruce

5/19/15 4:23pm

So you admit he was the 4th best player?

kimdaddy35

5/19/15 4:40pm

I think he was the 3rd best player when fully healthy. Absolutely.

thebruce

5/19/15 4:56pm

The stats don't tell the whole story.

thebruce

5/19/15 4:58pm

The stats tell a completely different story

kimdaddy35

5/19/15 11:50pm

he was playing injured during the season

thebruce

5/20/15 8:23am

So does that make him a better player?

kimdaddy35

5/20/15 12:06pm

well ok, I see what you are saying...We are just defining it in different ways.

thebruce

5/20/15 12:23pm

Fair enough. Simply put from a production standpoint he was the

kimdaddy35

5/20/15 12:24pm

You can sit around on the pot looking at stats all day long. If he's the 4th

mikeynolikey

5/20/15 8:53am

a bit ironic...I posted half of my responses from the pot.

thebruce

5/20/15 10:30am

I'm a big jazz homer...I'd still take duncan over Karl 10/10. the only people

thebruce

5/19/15 1:36am

C is Hakeem if 5 steps to the basket are allowed.

Accipiter

5/18/15 10:40pm

I can't disagree with any of those, but where would you put the Big O? Surely

mikeynolikey

5/18/15 10:54pm

LBJ vs. Bird is not even close to a tough choice ...

MormonDevil

5/18/15 11:01pm

LBJ is certainly more versatile, but you can't dismiss Bird so easily. One of t

mikeynolikey

5/18/15 11:07pm

Bird is like Stockton ...

MormonDevil

5/18/15 11:19pm

No way would I take KD over Bird. Bird was a more complete player.

Josef K

5/18/15 11:25pm

And only Jordan was a greater competitor

mikeynolikey

5/18/15 11:31pm

KD over bird? wut.

thebruce

5/19/15 1:19am

Bird was incredible, his advanced stats match up fairly well to Lebron's

kimdaddy35

5/19/15 1:43am

They are different mentally. Bird is up there with Jordan when it comes to

Accipiter

5/19/15 9:31am

"Fading" was his critics' word; Unselfish, bringing best out in teammates is how

roseyscenario

5/19/15 9:39am

They are comparable players. I probably put LBJ ahead of Bird for two reasons.

Josef K

5/19/15 9:42am

Those are also reasons why Magic is in that discussion.

roseyscenario

5/19/15 9:43am

There you go again. Timmy isn't a PF.

wapiti

5/19/15 1:00am

Backcourt: I'll put LBJ at point, Kobe at the 2, MJ at 3.

Undefeated

5/19/15 1:07am

Kobe and MJ would kill eachother. That team would suck.

thebruce

5/19/15 1:21am

they would be guarding each other even on the same team

thebruce

5/19/15 1:48am

Certainly your prerogative, but I think a team with Magic, Jordan and Lebron

kimdaddy35

5/19/15 1:40am

I agree with your list 100%

thebruce

5/19/15 1:21am

RE: My "best of" the NBA

Thrill

5/19/15 1:44am

My 10: James, Russell, Magic, Kareem, Jordan, Big O, Wilt, Bird, Dr J, Pistol P.

roseyscenario

5/19/15 5:26am

Dr. J's best 5 with his thoroughly sane response to this question. link:

roseyscenario

5/19/15 9:19am

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