I know you like the VORP, so just know that career VORP Karl is second to MJ and Duncan is sixth. Karl was the second best player in the era that that GOAT played, and unfortunately came in 2nd in two finals appearances against MJ and aso for three scoring titles.
Karl was a very good defender, Duncan is an elite defender. But in the era of Malone I'm not sure there is a better forward on D outside of Rodman than Karl.