I have a friend that played for Sitake at Utah. He told me the same thing that

Aug 9, 2017
7:54:25pm

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he and Witt, would stop everything to show exactly what was wrong and how to fix it. The kid played Safety and he said in film they actually broke it down to foot placement. Nothing was left to chance. They wanted every single mechanical thing done right so that they could get the most out of every player.

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Improvements in practice

Steely_Don

8/9/17 7:31pm

Great post. Nominated. Everyone should read.

Quacker

8/9/17 7:44pm

Rack him

Unibro

8/10/17 7:39am

Hmmmmmmmmm. I really didn't like Bronco but I'm not so sure

Gerald-DeGroot

8/9/17 7:45pm

With all these improvements, this team should go 15-0.

Y'zFan

8/9/17 8:18pm

Nah who needs more than 1 year plus I consider last years loss to Utah a win

franklyvulgar

8/9/17 8:22pm

Amen

Gerald-DeGroot

8/9/17 9:11pm

Sounds like a Ty Detmer versus Anae thing

Acorn

8/10/17 2:51am

This post aged well

4mack

3/5/18 12:04pm

But CB told me that good coaches yell a lot and "light up" players when they

Iman23

8/9/17 7:51pm

He said they yell, they just don't berate. They use it as a teaching moment...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:03pm

What are they yelling? "Hey, you have beautiful eyes?"

DirtyWater

8/9/17 8:06pm

There is still yelling and accountability or did I misread

franklyvulgar

8/9/17 8:06pm

3rd paragraph

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:22am

This discussion has been held regarding our BB coach, who watches the

Rocketman

8/9/17 9:47pm

I totally agree.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:30am

I have a friend that played for Sitake at Utah. He told me the same thing that

Nat Gas Man

8/9/17 7:54pm

that explains a lot. Often times Utah wins in the rivalry came down to a few...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:05pm

I'm glad we have sitake but bronco never had a losing season

franklyvulgar

8/9/17 8:20pm

Easy to do when you play 6 teams a year with losing records.

CarolinaCoug

8/9/17 10:00pm

Don't most teams play 6 teams with losing records?

scootsy

8/9/17 10:14pm

CarolinaCoug

8/9/17 10:55pm

On average, don't half the teams on a team's schedule have losing records?

DirtyWater

8/9/17 11:15pm

Not all teams with losing records are created equal..

icecougar

8/10/17 12:56am

And they have losing records for a reason

ALC

8/10/17 10:04am

I was a Bronco apologist...

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:36am

agreed

ColonelMustard

8/10/17 12:19pm

I'd bet my lunch most coaches break down film like this.

jensen46

8/9/17 9:20pm

actually I don't think so...it appears to be an Urban Meyer thing

Nat Gas Man

8/10/17 8:10am

I love the current staff. But according to one UVA fan, Bronco's methods

84 Grad

8/9/17 7:58pm

That's exactly what he did at BYU. But each season he expected more from

Freddie Cougar

8/10/17 4:55pm

"many teaching moments were missed and the confidence of many players was..."

icecougar

8/9/17 8:02pm

Yup

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:44am

I'm pretty sure there is more to it than that.

StalwartBraveTrue

8/10/17 5:52pm

If you delete the middle three paragraphs, then this is much more believable.

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:04pm

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icecougar

8/9/17 8:05pm

Plenty of other examples

Steely_Don

8/10/17 6:56am

I think that you're seeing what you want to see.

Random Walk

8/10/17 8:53am

what about takitaki saying kalani cares more about the players than bronco?

District

8/10/17 12:07pm

Takitaki did not say that...

Random Walk

8/10/17 1:17pm

"Takes care of us more"

District

8/10/17 1:24pm

"Takes care of us more" is not "Kalani cares more about the players"

Random Walk

8/10/17 1:34pm

Whatever dude. Between the OP,takitaki, and other observations it's clear

District

8/10/17 2:18pm

Now you're onto something that I can agree with...

Random Walk

8/10/17 4:12pm

Why wouldn't Burt tell Bronco he had eye problems? Seems kinda career limiting on his part.

RSLCoug

8/9/17 8:04pm

he couldn't get a word in edge-wise from all the yelling and berating...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:06pm

I was told by a former player that Bronco had an open door policy for his

Bullrider

8/10/17 4:00pm

But did Burt feel Bronco was approachable?

icecougar

8/11/17 8:57pm

Sure he did, he knew the policy.

Bullrider

8/11/17 10:03pm

Approachability

TriggerWarning

8/9/17 8:14pm

Spot on.

cdr88

8/10/17 1:53pm

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:00am

From what I read, Burt didn't even realize

bluegato

8/10/17 8:15am

RE: From what I read, Burt didn't even realize

SMRT

8/10/17 4:13pm

Hippo!

cougaman

8/10/17 4:59pm

I wonder if that's why certain players, like Hine, didn't seem to develop well

Run-DMT

8/9/17 8:05pm

Hopefully it means fewer missed tackles. That is one thing that bugged me about

cougaman

8/9/17 8:05pm

Bronco coached the best defenses in BYU history.

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:07pm

They had talented QB's, they just couldn't develop them as passers

icecougar

8/9/17 8:09pm

I think it was more the lack of offensive identity mixed with the merry-go-round

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:14pm

It's hard to say if Munns and Lark were overrated, they never got much of a...

icecougar

8/10/17 2:16am

I generally like Bronco, and think he was a great defensive coordinator. I was

cougaman

8/9/17 8:14pm

I'm just saying that there were bigger issues than tackling during the Bronco

Random Walk

8/9/17 8:17pm

This is just the one that I noticed the most as someone who never really played

cougaman

8/9/17 8:20pm

I've read him say he doesn't teach and expects players to already know the...

icecougar

8/10/17 2:37am

amen. basics that Bronco said they don't practice...

icecougar

8/9/17 8:08pm

My friend who is a player on the team told me "Something is off" with

coolblue

8/9/17 8:07pm

was off or is off?

84 Grad

8/9/17 8:10pm

"is off"

coolblue

8/9/17 8:11pm

Please do go on...

MaxxPower

8/9/17 8:16pm

I'll leave it at that for now. There was more.

coolblue

8/9/17 9:39pm

Please, throw something inflammatory out like that and then don't say anything?

RaggaeCoug

8/10/17 8:23am

LINK !!!

CarolinaCoug

8/9/17 10:08pm

Hahaha, and there you have it. His "friend" is a Bronco guy, hence doesn't like

RaggaeCoug

8/10/17 8:29am

They work TOO HARD, they like winning TOO MUCH, they recruit TOO WELL

Backcountry

8/10/17 2:34am

Always got to take things like this, even when legit with a grain of salt.

rtNelson

8/10/17 4:26am

Can we move on from Bronco, don't like the guy......but it's history, let it go

chirocoug

8/9/17 8:12pm

Wasn't this a post about how the team is moving on from Bronco?

RSLCoug

8/9/17 8:18pm

Good point. I am a big anti Bronco. Felt he held the program back

chirocoug

8/9/17 8:30pm

Agreed. Kalani = Lavell Guy, BYU Football. Bronco = Grit Weirdo

Honor Code

8/10/17 5:17am

Because he wouldn't be in your Hashimoto ad?

OneUpper

8/9/17 8:24pm

Clever...

crazY

8/9/17 8:35pm

Wait, CB told me that Bronco wasnt engaged and fiery?

BYUfan92

8/9/17 8:19pm

Thank you for this post, but color me a bit skeptical

Adrielle

8/9/17 8:20pm

Some technique was taught, I'm sure.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:10am

Here's the thing

shakarocks

8/10/17 7:23am

Two different ways to do the same thing

shakarocks

8/9/17 8:28pm

Perhaps.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:12am

That is what it comes down to

shakarocks

8/10/17 7:25am

Burt was playing as a freshman but he got injured...

Jericho

8/9/17 8:29pm

Not sure what you're getting at...

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:13am

But he was blind! How could he have played football!?!?

rtNelson

8/10/17 4:30pm

Just seems like two different methods. Neither is wrong.

Mister P

8/9/17 8:40pm

Agreed except if what the OP said was true then was there a blind spot in Bronco's style and methods that led to

Adrielle

8/9/17 8:48pm

OP made some kind of bizarre claims about Burt, so there's

Jericho

8/9/17 9:07pm

This is the second time that I've read on CB about Burt getting a prescription visor..

Adrielle

8/9/17 9:09pm

Not talking about the visor

Jericho

8/9/17 9:13pm

My Burt anecdote was from Criddle

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:15am

I have never met a coach that was universally loved

shakarocks

8/9/17 9:48pm

In general I agree with you. My statement was more of a hypothetical

Adrielle

8/9/17 9:54pm

Can we be done with the garbage about Burt not being able to see the gaps in the

Pretorian

8/9/17 9:01pm

If you have astigmatism they won't work

seco03

8/9/17 9:06pm

Plain contacts won't but toric contact lenses will. He may have something that

Malathion

8/9/17 9:32pm

I have no idea about Riley's condition. Only that there a lot of people who

seco03

8/9/17 9:36pm

Also false.

Conan

8/11/17 3:07pm

False.

Conan

8/11/17 3:06pm

Can you prove it wrong?

Lip Gallagher

8/9/17 9:07pm

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Cougazul

8/9/17 9:29pm

Can you prove it's absurd? Honestly asking.

Lip Gallagher

8/9/17 9:35pm

<< Deleted >>

Cougazul

8/9/17 9:47pm

That part did sound weird.

Lip Gallagher

8/9/17 9:53pm

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Cougazul

8/9/17 10:02pm

Must have been a slow day at CB!

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:29am

But, but but, Sitake invented the prescription visor!!!

thejimmer

8/9/17 9:46pm

Prescription visor portion is legit. So is my source.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 5:39am

this means absolutely nothing if they don't win on the field

Sale

8/9/17 9:06pm

But this is what we talk about until they get in games.

Squire

8/9/17 9:28pm

Beating Arizona, Toledo, Michigan State and Mississippi State

bigjohn

8/9/17 10:57pm

agreed, but you have to attribute some of that success to the prior regime

Sale

8/9/17 11:37pm

Very true.

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:34am

It would be great if the Bronco comparisons died. He did good things and moved

JamesWestfall

8/9/17 10:09pm

I blame the team nutritionist

Thunder Buddy

8/9/17 10:39pm

POTDs losing their luster.

coug10278

8/9/17 11:39pm

We talkin' about PRACTICE!!!

Run-DMT

8/10/17 1:30am

Not the game!

Steely_Don

8/10/17 7:37am

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Cougazul

8/10/17 9:12am

I don't know anything about practices now but I observed several under Bronco

cougar_chick1

8/10/17 8:35am

The ball on a stick thing is a common football drill

shakarocks

8/10/17 8:47am

Mistaken about Bronco not using Burt.

Gorum the Old

8/10/17 8:36am

Those darn superlatives.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 5:48am

Bronco didn't exactly move Burt.

slatecoug

8/11/17 9:38am

Since we now know there is no such thing as a prescription visor, how much

coolblue

8/10/17 8:39am

None, to my knowledge.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 5:55am

You see what you want to see. You hear what you want to hear.

mtnKat

8/10/17 11:54am

No one said anything about emotional trauma

District

8/10/17 12:13pm

Yeah, they're football players.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:41am

Many effective ways to practice

Lemmonhead

8/10/17 1:26pm

Great points.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:48am

It's all academic right now.

WaybackCougar

8/10/17 5:59pm

Summer = speculation

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:51am

Won't take five years to see results

Heinz57

8/12/17 9:00pm

RE: Won't take five years to see results

WaybackCougar

8/14/17 11:09am

Your buddy picked up on all this as a freshman helping BYU coaches? He's really

(Private)

8/10/17 6:49pm

He's a sharp kid.

Steely_Don

8/11/17 6:52am

This says it all...

Heinz57

8/12/17 8:57pm

Your friend doesn't know JACK apparently. Like less than zero.

pink22

11/21/17 11:46am

Funny how Iman's sarcastic response might have been the most insightful

Bob Vance

3/5/18 2:58pm

The thing I struggle with here is that it just sounds well written to shed a

Idahofallsblue

8/14/18 7:59pm

I come here from the future. This is all mostly true.

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