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To be clear... Tom Holmoe wants BYU in a P5 conference. That is the goal. It is achievable. He's working
HarlemCoug
Playmaker
10/12/17 12:32pm
Any kind of guarantee that the program will actually be funded to compete at a P5 level if/when we get there?
foofcoug
10/12/17 12:33pm
Probably not to your satisfaction, but yes they would fund the program
basman
10/12/17 12:36pm
I can't guarantee it. But there's a lot of history of "doing things the BYU way" and going the cheap route.
foofcoug
10/12/17 12:38pm
Meaning they don't take on an obscene amount of debt? If that's what you're
basman
10/12/17 12:40pm
No, just talking about paying coaches market level salaries. Investing in equipment, technology, meeting rooms, locker
foofcoug
10/12/17 12:43pm
I'll bet the tennis team would be able to pay their coaches pretty well
Backcountry
10/12/17 12:45pm
The athletic department will be allowed to spend whatever revenue it makes
StantonMac
10/12/17 3:31pm
I guess we'll see with the next round of re-alignment. The Big XII didn't extend
Windward_Coug
10/12/17 12:38pm
This seems most likely to me. We end up in a somewhat watered down B12 but have P5 status/access. Would be great...
HarlemCoug
10/12/17 12:44pm
It would be better than the "BCS" Big East conference those last few years.
Windward_Coug
10/12/17 12:45pm
That would be great. That is our best bet.
Backcountry
10/12/17 12:46pm
If TX and OU leave, the Big 12 will be curb-stomped
Everyman
10/12/17 12:56pm
The B12 team who get demoted will sue. Anti-trust issues. Right? I can't imagine a demotion without seriously
HarlemCoug
10/12/17 1:03pm
yes that is too much expose and asks for Federal intervention
Nat Gas Man
10/12/17 1:08pm
Nothing happened when the Big East was demoted or at least nothing significant
rmreitz
10/12/17 2:20pm
The teams left were not the original Blue bloods
BYUSwoop
10/12/17 9:41pm
The BE never sued. Neither will the Big 12,
Everyman
10/12/17 3:59pm
P5 access to what?
displacedute
10/12/17 4:55pm
Most of that depends upon what the Big does. If they expand the SEC will follow
Nat Gas Man
10/12/17 12:45pm
Doesn't the PAC 12 grant of rights expire about the same time as the Big 12's?
boscatar
10/12/17 12:47pm
Joining a G5 means admitting that P5 will never happen. How long will it take
DoseOfReality
10/12/17 12:38pm
Yes, P5 is an option. Some of us argue that G5 puts us in the best position to
TheLoneCougar
10/12/17 12:41pm
You're referring to our 2017 win loss record right? Because otherwise the numbers in Independence
MaxxPower
10/12/17 5:36pm
I know this is directed primarily at me. Of course Tom wants BYU in a P5.
Backcountry
10/12/17 12:44pm
Well Tom...let's be honest. The ONLY thing that P5 conferences are interested in
Lifi
10/12/17 12:47pm
it's better than most - our revenues for the Utah game this year were the highest revenues ever for a
HarlemCoug
10/12/17 12:52pm
Signed: B1G’s addition of Rutgers and Maryland...
BamaCoug
10/12/17 9:01pm
The definition of "achievable" is debatable. The conference we fit best
Scott_Tenorman
10/12/17 12:51pm
That ship has sailed
TNT
10/12/17 1:16pm
not necessarily...there is a lot in play...
Nat Gas Man
10/12/17 1:21pm
Nope. 2011 was BYU's shot
TNT
10/12/17 1:21pm
Next shot is 2024. Things then will be interesting. Not sure get the invite, but I expect changes then.
Turnpike Lane
10/12/17 1:29pm
They'd have to change the wording in the HC for us to even have a shot imo. The
Windward_Coug
10/12/17 1:37pm
Gives 7 years to make revisions.
Turnpike Lane
10/12/17 1:49pm
True.
Turbine
10/12/17 1:34pm
I wish I could fly like superman or look like Brad Pit..
Coug
10/12/17 1:20pm
Unfortunately, TH and the BYU BOT don't get a vote until there's an invite.
TrueBlue67
10/12/17 1:33pm
It was the BE/AAC that referred to our "piece of work" lawyers, not the B12
boscatar
10/12/17 2:17pm
Is he really tirelessly working on it? Doesn't he have a full job already...
Hill4Heisman
10/12/17 2:25pm
His job is harder than any other AD. His responsibilities include filling out a
Backcountry
10/12/17 2:47pm
Don't try to run before you can walk
FootFAN
10/12/17 2:30pm
If we were P5, we would hire successful coaches from the G5 ranks...
boscatar
10/12/17 4:08pm
How is suggesting G5>Indy sabotaging efforts to get into a P5?
Junior Deputy
10/12/17 2:45pm
Don't you know? Indy is the only way. A G5 team has never received a P5 invite.
JarJarBeeps
10/12/17 5:00pm
OK, but that statement from Holmoe would be like single me saying
fredgarvin
10/12/17 3:00pm
Whatever
shakarocks
10/12/17 3:03pm
Everyone wants that.
Countcougula
10/12/17 3:04pm
Don't see BYU moving the needle with the football W/L record over the last 7
palangi
10/12/17 3:32pm
Not undermining... just not thinking big enough.
(Private)
10/12/17 5:32pm
He's been working on it for 6 years. He's not capable. In the meantime, Indy..
What_The_Hill?
10/12/17 7:03pm
Give it up. It’s not going to happen.
mm73
10/12/17 7:56pm
Talk is cheap.
Turd Furguson
10/12/17 8:10pm
A P5 conference has to invite BYU. That's not achievable.
Polecat
10/12/17 8:21pm
Totally agree. Sure, Tom wants the Y in a P5 conference, and he's worked very hard for it,
Y-Phile
10/13/17 1:11am
Then we should just shut down the program. There isn't enough money in even an
Nat Gas Man
10/13/17 2:13pm
Attendence would be fine.
shakarocks
10/13/17 2:29pm
not at the current prices
Nat Gas Man
10/13/17 2:34pm
Feel free to contribute LiveCoug
shakarocks
10/13/17 2:51pm
Just how much are we riding in the black right now?
Coug
10/13/17 2:42pm
my guess with the addition costs of FCOA it is about $4M...but with the BB field
Nat Gas Man
10/13/17 2:46pm
It's just time to start being very honest with ourselves...
Coug
10/13/17 3:20pm
It all depends on the sales pitch...
TrueBlue67
10/13/17 4:14pm
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