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Feb 18, 2018
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CougarThug
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TX has a cap. Hasn't really slowed the growth in healthcare costs here though.
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Berkshire Hathaway is teaming up with JP Morgan Chase and Amazon to figure
crazY
2/18/18 12:05am
Make doctors and hospitals have pricing available up front
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:09am
That, capping medical malpractice suits (unless the case is severe), and
crazY
2/18/18 12:19am
TX has a cap. Hasn't really slowed the growth in healthcare costs here though.
CougarThug
2/18/18 12:21am
But it has helped Texas recruit and retain physicians, which is a good thing.
Game Changer
2/18/18 12:23am
Oh yes, retaining good doctors would help a lot, too. Medical malpractice does
crazY
2/18/18 12:25am
I have a great doc. Just hope he can keep practicing.
CougarThug
2/18/18 1:00am
Took me four years to find a Houston doc whose primary language is English.
CougarThug
2/18/18 12:41am
Isn't it like 250k and then you have to file a different suite for lost wages, use of limb etc?
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:24am
I think the $250K is for "non-economic" damages, i.e. pain & suffering, etc.
CougarThug
2/18/18 12:47am
That's what I was getting at, thanks for wording it better
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:48am
This is why I said unless the case is severe:
crazY
2/18/18 12:29am
I like the idea, but you get into ethical questions when deciding whether or not
Game Changer
2/18/18 12:22am
What if your hospital charges X amount, but there's a doctor that just does cat scans
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:26am
Which drugs do you prescribe when pharma & ins are pushing their favorites...
CougarThug
2/18/18 12:28am
If you are going to a place where the doctor who examines you also owns an MRI
Game Changer
2/18/18 12:34am
Mistake yes. But how is the victim to know ahead of time?
CougarThug
2/18/18 12:47am
This is already illegal. Re: Stark Laws.
SportsDoc
2/18/18 12:57am
Pretty sure that only applies for Medicare & Medicaid patients.
CougarThug
2/18/18 1:04am
Stark laws are for Medicaid and Medicare providers.
Idahofallsblue
2/18/18 10:17am
while this will help most people won’t care. Those on insurance and those on
cougarfann888
2/18/18 12:22am
Would it drop the price of insurance though? If insurance companies can pay the lesser "cash" price?
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:28am
Too many patients are too removed from payment that upfront pricing won't matter
wabluecoug
2/18/18 12:27am
Also, make doctors wear patches on their coats of the pharmaceutical companies that are wining and dining them
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:30am
This doesn't happen anymore
Idahofallsblue
2/18/18 12:33am
How does it work? With pharmaceutical sales. Does it just go straight to a board or something?
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:35am
Docs used to get crazy and excessive money thrown
Idahofallsblue
2/18/18 12:52am
Now they get to market directly to the ignorant consumer and let them bug the Dr
wabluecoug
2/18/18 12:36am
Yeah, that's true. Isn't the U.S. one of the few countries that allows drug advertising? I think I remember hearing
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:38am
Ever hear of TRICARE and the $100+ million kickback scheme?
CougarThug
2/18/18 12:54am
It's not SUPPOSED to happen. Were there punishments?
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 12:56am
That was one of the things that lead to the new regulations implemented in late
cougarfann888
2/18/18 1:00am
Most doctors have very little to do with pricing in the first place.
SportsDoc
2/18/18 1:06am
To clarify a little, when I said doctors I didn't mean the individual physician.
Fetchin Fetcher
2/18/18 1:23am
That already exists in some practices.
IGlowInTheDark
2/18/18 2:56am
Medical expenses are tax deductible only if your employer pays them
BYU'01
2/18/18 12:34pm
Make them subject to the Sherman and Clayton antitrust acts. When they became a business instead of a profession, they
Smack'sWife
2/18/18 4:48pm
Impossible to have pricing available up front. At least in the hospital setting. No way to tell the direction your
Virginia Ute
2/19/18 12:33pm
A hospital is not just an ER. I get what you're saying and I think I brought it up in another post
Fetchin Fetcher
2/19/18 12:54pm
I find it interesting that people devoting their lives
Idahofallsblue
2/18/18 12:26am
Well, what they really want to do is increase their bottom line. The less money
crazY
2/18/18 12:31am
BIG difference between housing market and exploitation on medical necessity
Dissenter
2/19/18 9:26am
Here's how I think this goes down:
UberDeek
2/18/18 12:53am
while pretending that hiding the costs is the same as reducing the costs.
CougarThug
2/18/18 1:06am
Imagine Amazon or Costco Starts a Healthcare Buyers Group.
Tsisquan
2/18/18 12:54am
I'd love insurance with a 50k deductible.
HarlemCoug
2/18/18 1:09am
If market forces were truly at play
Tsisquan
2/18/18 1:46am
People don't realize it yet, but this is a game-changer, and I think may have
jaba166
2/18/18 3:16am
I love your optimism but I have a hard time calling this
Idahofallsblue
2/18/18 10:21am
Actually, they've clearly stated they plan on a transparent, non-profit entity.
jaba166
2/18/18 10:38pm
No. What they're teaming up to do is figure out how you pay them for healthcare instead of insurance companies.
SpiffCoug
2/18/18 7:11am
Bingo. I think this will end up being true. They will squeeze others until they
Idahofallsblue
2/18/18 10:22am
Healthcare is evil. Only the upper class can afford ‘good’ healthcare
Croweater
2/18/18 7:40am
Not true. Even the lowest of income get more health care benefit than what they
kotacoug
2/18/18 7:43am
Only because they are on Medicaid
Croweater
2/18/18 7:50am
Rising care of health costs are because of the administration bloating
goofball
2/18/18 8:17am
Yep
Idahofallsblue
2/18/18 10:25am
The solution is simple but can big business put down their ledgers and do it?
ArchbishopMitty
2/18/18 9:53pm
guy I work with wife has lupis. She just got out of her second stint in the
bald man
2/19/18 6:16am
This whole thread is full of people who have no idea what they’re talking about, but this might be the winner
SJS
2/19/18 6:20am
just repeating what her husband said they did. I've no clue what they did.
bald man
2/19/18 10:18am
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