Call it what you want, buddies, loyalty hires, etc...

Apr 26, 2018
8:20:16pm

icecougar All-American

...It showed you need some experience with your staff. It's ok to mentor new inexperienced guys but you need a balanced staff.

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Didn't we learn anything from Kalani's failed experiment hiring buddies/former..

icecougar

4/26/18 11:38am

It doesn’t. It was a lazy and weak hire.

Gerald-DeGroot

4/26/18 11:40am

LaComb worked under Majerus before he came to BYU.

RockyBalboa

4/26/18 11:40am

manager of basketball operations not a coach

byuprof

4/26/18 11:41am

Let's not pretend he didn't learn anythign from that experience. He was basically a coach/recruiter.

Turnpike Lane

4/26/18 11:44am

I didn't think a team manager could recruit. Doesn't he hand out towels, etc?

icecougar

4/26/18 11:45am

That would count as recruiting for those that know of Rick's escapades.

Malathion

4/26/18 11:48am

Can on campus. Not off. But coordinates. Good article explaining what they can do, and can't.

Turnpike Lane

4/26/18 11:49am

Lacomb's background before coming to BYU

byuprof

4/26/18 12:31pm

as a towel boy and clipboard holder?

icecougar

4/26/18 11:44am

Lacomb is a great guy but doesn't actually do any coaching

thebruce

4/26/18 11:48am

Sure he knows hoops.

RockyBalboa

4/26/18 11:58am

Not at the level as most D1 assistants. There is a reason not much is asked

thebruce

4/26/18 7:08pm

That's a pretty sweet gig

icecougar

4/26/18 8:23pm

It pays to be best friends with your boss.

thebruce

4/26/18 9:21pm

Its ok to pretend to know what you don’t know

RockyBalboa

4/26/18 10:55pm

that must've been quite a burden

icecougar

4/26/18 12:53pm

Not really. I passed out basketballs and such. Then was an assistant to the assistants for a HS team, then somehow

Dillinger

4/26/18 2:00pm

Basketball and football staffing are even remotely close to the same.

Turnpike Lane

4/26/18 11:43am

The "got other gigs" part is what's missing here

CommodoreCoug

4/26/18 11:50am

3 Rose assistants have left for D1 head coaching jobs in the last 7 years

Indy Coug

4/26/18 11:51am

Yup. Rice, Pope and Schroyer. None of them ex-BYU players.

CommodoreCoug

4/26/18 11:52am

those were all good hiring decisions. guys from outside the program who brought.

icecougar

4/26/18 11:54am

Let's not pretend the situation you described at Duke is the same as here...

icecougar

4/26/18 11:52am

RE: Let's not pretend the situation you described at Duke is the same as here...

Turnpike Lane

4/26/18 11:55am

We agree a lot not this time

kahuna

4/26/18 2:18pm

Did you see how many years of experience Coach K's former players had when assisting him?

Indy Coug

4/26/18 11:49am

If Rose had Coach K's resume I wouldn't worry about anything he decided...

icecougar

4/26/18 11:56am

I think it really has more to do with players anyway. Duke gets top-3 recruiting classes every year. Easy to be a genius

Turnpike Lane

4/26/18 12:07pm

another reason why that example doesn't fit with our situation here at BYU

icecougar

4/26/18 12:16pm

Solid comparison.

Gerald-DeGroot

4/26/18 12:29pm

RE: Solid comparison.

icecougar

4/26/18 12:54pm

I've heard speculation (before the hire was made) that if is was Cummard that

SoCalCoug

4/26/18 11:50am

I think Rose has given enough hints that he's gone in 2 years

thebruce

4/26/18 11:51am

How does Lee being hired = Rose leaving?

JuicyJam

4/26/18 12:01pm

It doesn't. Just that it was mentioned on CB in a prior thread, became

basman

4/26/18 12:04pm

More than just CB, it was also talked about on ESPN960

icecougar

4/26/18 12:28pm

It's the easiest call, it gives him a couple years of experience as a D-1 coach

SoCalCoug

4/26/18 5:02pm

A year from now CB will claim Cummard should replace Rose

Coogar2

4/26/18 7:00pm

One and single ❓: Can Lee Cummard recruit???

MichCoug

4/26/18 11:55am

I don't mind the hire. Ultimately I only care about

thebruce

4/26/18 11:56am

my guess there is Quincy would be more dialed in...

icecougar

4/26/18 12:18pm

I fully support Rose and I like the hire of Cummard. By hiring him we likely

PortlandBlue

4/26/18 12:01pm

Interesting...seems to me that a shake-up, rather than "stability"

CommodoreCoug

4/26/18 12:06pm

So you're completely in agreement with any "drain the swamp" philosophy?

StarMan

4/26/18 12:18pm

RE: So you're completely in agreement with any "drain the swamp" philosophy?

CommodoreCoug

4/26/18 12:25pm

well, swamps aren't very pleasant. they generally smell, lots of mosquitoes etc.

icecougar

4/26/18 12:27pm

Crazy to not support a coach who has never won fewer than 20

Coogar2

4/26/18 7:02pm

I was hoping to get a long time X's and O's type assistant.

Thrill

4/26/18 12:06pm

Yeah! Let's get someone with lots of experience. Like Heath Schroyer, maybe.

Art Director

4/26/18 12:37pm

there was good and bad there...

icecougar

4/26/18 1:03pm

To be fair, there's not really any evidence Sitake hired guys

Lip Gallagher

4/26/18 2:01pm

Call it what you want, buddies, loyalty hires, etc...

icecougar

4/26/18 8:20pm

Replacing Shroyer with Cummard is a net negative.

SlantRoute

4/26/18 2:05pm

Agreed. We need assistants with experience under different systems and coaches.

chazen

4/26/18 4:54pm

If Lee is the secret sauce to keep Yoeli then this is a great hire

Coogar2

4/26/18 7:03pm

Is that just an "if" or is there something to that?

icecougar

4/26/18 8:22pm

I don't agree with the negativity. But then this is CB

Y-Zag

4/26/18 7:29pm

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