Hmm....funny to hear the bipolar arguments

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May 7, 2018
11:35:38am

Fido Walk-on

Hmm....funny to hear the bipolar arguments

Holmoe had "5 good years and then 10 average to below average, to poor results" yet people still go on about how great Bronco Mendenhall was. Wouldn't this also make Mendenhall/Rose "average to below average to poor" 2/3s of the time? Just looking for consistency in the complaints.

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Fido

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Did Rondo Fehlberg quit or was he forced out?

Oranje

5/6/18 8:38pm

What about Alfonso Belberg ?

macdizzle

5/6/18 8:40pm

What about Alfonso Ribeiro

yahtzee

5/6/18 8:47pm

RE: What about Alfonso Ribeiro

Roko's Basilisk

5/7/18 8:37am

Forced out. He was viewed a bit too progressive.

Dangerous

5/6/18 8:40pm

You spelled competent wrong

DrBYU

5/6/18 8:42pm

Definitely sad. We used to celebrate top 20 Director's Cup finishes.

Oranje

5/6/18 8:48pm

You talking about Bateman?

Bob Vance

5/6/18 9:08pm

Why did the Administration view this as a bad thing?

TNT

5/6/18 9:09pm

Because it’s BYU. Free thought is only encouraged as long as it’s not

Nakedbootleg

5/6/18 10:19pm

you forgot to finish that statement. ... as long as it's not contradictory to

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 7:23am

“You serious, Clark?”

ZooBlue

5/7/18 10:07am

as a heart attack.

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 10:37am

Hate to break this to you, but God and the LDS church are not synonymous.

Roko's Basilisk

5/7/18 12:27pm

Maybe not to you.

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 2:12pm

All snark aside, you're setting yourself up for a big fall if you think this way

Roko's Basilisk

5/7/18 2:50pm

I separate the church from man. As long as I stick to His word and instructions

ImuaKahuku

5/8/18 3:36am

not necessarily. God and the Savior are willing to work with imperfect people...

icecougar

5/8/18 8:49pm

Written policy or unwritten policy established by unofficial tradition?

Josef K

5/7/18 12:31pm

This is why people hate BYU. Good grief, how out of touch can you be?

reddead

5/7/18 1:28pm

Out of touch? How so? Pretty blanket statement no free thought at BYU. I

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 2:06pm

Dont think Rondo did any of that.

jkccoug

5/7/18 6:58pm

Do you find it ironic that a university named after a man with a gigantic beard

vagabonder

5/8/18 11:00am

If they had left Rondo alone and let him do his thing

pappabear246

5/7/18 2:59pm

Hard to imagine BYU hiring visionary types. Doubt Lavell would be hired today.

cdr88

5/7/18 3:54pm

Forced out by Merrill Bateman. Bateman could go down as the person who single

YbeatsU

5/6/18 8:50pm

After Rex Lee BYU got saddled with 2 mediocre Presidents who had no vision

rocker

5/6/18 9:01pm

Can people brief me on why Bateman was so bad?

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 11:55am

From those who interacted with him. Two key flaws

CLCougar

5/7/18 2:07pm

Fair enough, thank you.

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 3:09pm

Only insiders know, but public perception was he was

idacoug

5/7/18 3:01pm

Probably true

TNT

5/6/18 9:09pm

You misspelled Samuelson... the guy kept siphoning money from athletics to his

1984coug

5/6/18 9:12pm

On the 2nd thing. Seriously?

TNT

5/6/18 9:14pm

Yup... during the athletes fireside

1984coug

5/6/18 10:09pm

Really annoying when leaderships takes this attitude.

Oranje

5/6/18 10:17pm

I've had bishops and stake presidents go inactive too. Disband the whole thing!

Shore10

5/6/18 11:53pm

I’ve seen kids who go to UofU go inactive too, lots of them.

Y2k

5/7/18 1:15am

and people who breathe air! all inactive!

Cougarclaw

5/7/18 10:00am

<< Deleted >>

rocker

5/6/18 9:15pm

But he was great in front of the camera on the old football network

PenrynCoug

5/6/18 9:57pm

Very first live college football broadcast by CSTV, now CBS Sports Network.

5/7/18 5:01am

Founding member of Crimson Club not good for BYU sports? No way.

Kerbouchard

5/6/18 11:15pm

Yup. They should be taking jello shots in his name at every U tailgate.

fulano

5/7/18 9:17am

It was a lot more than him. But yeah, he was no good in that regard.

mantis mutu

5/6/18 11:56pm

I don't disagree but don't know enough about it

macdizzle

5/7/18 6:48am

Bateman...so glad he has moved on...

Heinz57

5/7/18 8:29am

Crimson Club cofounder who allegedly once brought Utah fans to sit in presidents

jkccoug

5/7/18 7:01pm

Never mind, I was thinking of Sameulson.

jkccoug

5/7/18 7:03pm

he gets my vote. Don't think he ever could see past his yewtness as BYU Pres.

icecougar

5/8/18 8:51pm

The legend of Rondo Fehlberg is largely a myth.

Tare

5/6/18 9:14pm

Haha. Ok. Is it the fact that he understood at such an early stage how important

YbeatsU

5/6/18 10:00pm

RE: Haha. Ok. Is it the fact that he understood at such an early stage how

Tare

5/6/18 10:19pm

Interesting.

Benfica1

5/7/18 8:32am

He was working on trying to get us in the PAC 10 way back...

5/7/18 10:54pm

Can't really make a statement like this without providing reasons why.

Oranje

5/6/18 10:08pm

Irresponsible post....back it up with something to substantiate

CLCougar

5/6/18 10:36pm

What did Rondo actually get done in his 4.5 yrs at the helm beyond firing

Tare

5/6/18 11:11pm

Ever heard of the Indoor Practice Facility?

Oranje

5/6/18 11:19pm

You mean the one built 4 years after Rondo left? Legendary.

Tare

5/6/18 11:27pm

His idea, he started the fundraising for it behind the scenes.

Oranje

5/6/18 11:40pm

From BYU Athletics website:

Oranje

5/6/18 11:44pm

You've got an axe to grind. He was clearly a driving force on the indoor facility. Does everything in your world

CLCougar

5/6/18 11:45pm

Maybe he's the opposite of a scapegoat around here

Great38

5/7/18 10:18am

No idea but his son was a cool missionary & liked BYU

Y4LYFE

5/6/18 9:27pm

Rhondo was working on Cotton Bowl invite well in advance

chirocoug

5/6/18 9:48pm

There were five regular season games left in the season

chirocoug

5/6/18 9:51pm

Yeah, the WAC had an agreement with the Cotton Bowl

jsjohnson1278

5/7/18 9:33pm

Rondo left because admin cut wrestling after Rondo raised enough cash to fund it

Coogar2

5/6/18 10:16pm

Tom Peterson told me that story when he was the men's volleyball coach.

Oranje

5/6/18 10:21pm

Tom is an old friend of mine also.

Coogar2

5/7/18 11:06am

True, and too bad.

Santos L. Halper

5/6/18 11:05pm

That's how I remember it too. He was a good AD, though.

mantis mutu

5/6/18 11:58pm

Rondo had vision and expected to win.

Coogar2

5/7/18 11:06am

An intelligent optimist who first came to BYU as an outsider (non-member).

mantis mutu

5/7/18 11:10am

Textbook example if a Leader coming up against a cadre of Managers

Accipiter

5/6/18 11:56pm

It’s suspicious to say the least that Holmoe has been in the position

5/7/18 12:58am

I would have to agree with this. Has nothing to do with how good a person he is.

Oranje

5/7/18 2:48am

Not only that, but everyone gives non-stop praise to the guy it seems.

RdF3

5/7/18 6:11am

Not only that, but his lack of leadership has also hurt the Women's sports

pspack41

5/7/18 9:45am

Hmm....funny to hear the bipolar arguments

Fido

5/7/18 11:35am

I can't speak for everyone else, but I for one was for change in football and am

Oranje

5/7/18 3:45pm

I fully support your opinion

chirocoug

5/7/18 8:03pm

Holmoe should’ve been fired the day BYUTV broadcasted the B12

5/7/18 8:55pm

Should have been fired the day TCU joined the Big 12

chirocoug

5/7/18 10:57pm

In essence, they took BYU's spot

chirocoug

5/7/18 10:58pm

He was my Bishop, awesome dude

Pretorian

5/7/18 5:35am

My wife and I had the privilege of having him and his son over for dinner one...

mflood

5/7/18 5:39am

So much speculation. May have been great, I don't have anything to support it.

Benfica1

5/7/18 8:37am

Both. He was not a “yes man” like hale and holmoe. We need an AD like him

idacoug

5/7/18 3:05pm

Holmoe is at least a great diplomat. Hale was a disappointment all around.

mantis mutu

5/7/18 4:53pm

Too young to evaluate Hale

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 6:23pm

Perhaps. I was a BYU grad living in Provo.

mantis mutu

5/7/18 9:29pm

Sorry, I didn’t put a complete sentence.

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 9:42pm

Explain diplomat

chirocoug

5/8/18 2:24pm

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