This is why people hate BYU. Good grief, how out of touch can you be?

May 7, 2018
1:28:36pm

reddead Walk-on

There is an awful lot that goes on at BYU that has practically nothing to do with the policies of God, the General Authorities, and the LDS Church.

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Did Rondo Fehlberg quit or was he forced out?

Oranje

5/6/18 8:38pm

What about Alfonso Belberg ?

macdizzle

5/6/18 8:40pm

What about Alfonso Ribeiro

yahtzee

5/6/18 8:47pm

RE: What about Alfonso Ribeiro

Roko's Basilisk

5/7/18 8:37am

Forced out. He was viewed a bit too progressive.

Dangerous

5/6/18 8:40pm

You spelled competent wrong

DrBYU

5/6/18 8:42pm

Definitely sad. We used to celebrate top 20 Director's Cup finishes.

Oranje

5/6/18 8:48pm

You talking about Bateman?

Bob Vance

5/6/18 9:08pm

Why did the Administration view this as a bad thing?

TNT

5/6/18 9:09pm

Because it’s BYU. Free thought is only encouraged as long as it’s not

Nakedbootleg

5/6/18 10:19pm

you forgot to finish that statement. ... as long as it's not contradictory to

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 7:23am

“You serious, Clark?”

ZooBlue

5/7/18 10:07am

as a heart attack.

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 10:37am

Hate to break this to you, but God and the LDS church are not synonymous.

Roko's Basilisk

5/7/18 12:27pm

Maybe not to you.

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 2:12pm

All snark aside, you're setting yourself up for a big fall if you think this way

Roko's Basilisk

5/7/18 2:50pm

I separate the church from man. As long as I stick to His word and instructions

ImuaKahuku

5/8/18 3:36am

not necessarily. God and the Savior are willing to work with imperfect people...

icecougar

5/8/18 8:49pm

Written policy or unwritten policy established by unofficial tradition?

Josef K

5/7/18 12:31pm

This is why people hate BYU. Good grief, how out of touch can you be?

reddead

5/7/18 1:28pm

Out of touch? How so? Pretty blanket statement no free thought at BYU. I

ImuaKahuku

5/7/18 2:06pm

Dont think Rondo did any of that.

jkccoug

5/7/18 6:58pm

Do you find it ironic that a university named after a man with a gigantic beard

vagabonder

5/8/18 11:00am

If they had left Rondo alone and let him do his thing

pappabear246

5/7/18 2:59pm

Hard to imagine BYU hiring visionary types. Doubt Lavell would be hired today.

cdr88

5/7/18 3:54pm

Forced out by Merrill Bateman. Bateman could go down as the person who single

YbeatsU

5/6/18 8:50pm

After Rex Lee BYU got saddled with 2 mediocre Presidents who had no vision

rocker

5/6/18 9:01pm

Can people brief me on why Bateman was so bad?

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 11:55am

From those who interacted with him. Two key flaws

CLCougar

5/7/18 2:07pm

Fair enough, thank you.

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 3:09pm

Only insiders know, but public perception was he was

idacoug

5/7/18 3:01pm

Probably true

TNT

5/6/18 9:09pm

You misspelled Samuelson... the guy kept siphoning money from athletics to his

1984coug

5/6/18 9:12pm

On the 2nd thing. Seriously?

TNT

5/6/18 9:14pm

Yup... during the athletes fireside

1984coug

5/6/18 10:09pm

Really annoying when leaderships takes this attitude.

Oranje

5/6/18 10:17pm

I've had bishops and stake presidents go inactive too. Disband the whole thing!

Shore10

5/6/18 11:53pm

I’ve seen kids who go to UofU go inactive too, lots of them.

Y2k

5/7/18 1:15am

and people who breathe air! all inactive!

Cougarclaw

5/7/18 10:00am

<< Deleted >>

rocker

5/6/18 9:15pm

But he was great in front of the camera on the old football network

PenrynCoug

5/6/18 9:57pm

Very first live college football broadcast by CSTV, now CBS Sports Network.

Six Foot Seven

5/7/18 5:01am

Founding member of Crimson Club not good for BYU sports? No way.

Kerbouchard

5/6/18 11:15pm

Yup. They should be taking jello shots in his name at every U tailgate.

fulano

5/7/18 9:17am

It was a lot more than him. But yeah, he was no good in that regard.

mantis mutu

5/6/18 11:56pm

I don't disagree but don't know enough about it

macdizzle

5/7/18 6:48am

Bateman...so glad he has moved on...

Heinz57

5/7/18 8:29am

Crimson Club cofounder who allegedly once brought Utah fans to sit in presidents

jkccoug

5/7/18 7:01pm

Never mind, I was thinking of Sameulson.

jkccoug

5/7/18 7:03pm

he gets my vote. Don't think he ever could see past his yewtness as BYU Pres.

icecougar

5/8/18 8:51pm

The legend of Rondo Fehlberg is largely a myth.

Tare

5/6/18 9:14pm

Haha. Ok. Is it the fact that he understood at such an early stage how important

YbeatsU

5/6/18 10:00pm

RE: Haha. Ok. Is it the fact that he understood at such an early stage how

Tare

5/6/18 10:19pm

Interesting.

Benfica1

5/7/18 8:32am

He was working on trying to get us in the PAC 10 way back...

So it goes...

5/7/18 10:54pm

Can't really make a statement like this without providing reasons why.

Oranje

5/6/18 10:08pm

Irresponsible post....back it up with something to substantiate

CLCougar

5/6/18 10:36pm

What did Rondo actually get done in his 4.5 yrs at the helm beyond firing

Tare

5/6/18 11:11pm

Ever heard of the Indoor Practice Facility?

Oranje

5/6/18 11:19pm

You mean the one built 4 years after Rondo left? Legendary.

Tare

5/6/18 11:27pm

His idea, he started the fundraising for it behind the scenes.

Oranje

5/6/18 11:40pm

From BYU Athletics website:

Oranje

5/6/18 11:44pm

You've got an axe to grind. He was clearly a driving force on the indoor facility. Does everything in your world

CLCougar

5/6/18 11:45pm

Maybe he's the opposite of a scapegoat around here

Great38

5/7/18 10:18am

No idea but his son was a cool missionary & liked BYU

Y4LYFE

5/6/18 9:27pm

Rhondo was working on Cotton Bowl invite well in advance

chirocoug

5/6/18 9:48pm

There were five regular season games left in the season

chirocoug

5/6/18 9:51pm

Yeah, the WAC had an agreement with the Cotton Bowl

jsjohnson1278

5/7/18 9:33pm

Rondo left because admin cut wrestling after Rondo raised enough cash to fund it

Coogar2

5/6/18 10:16pm

Tom Peterson told me that story when he was the men's volleyball coach.

Oranje

5/6/18 10:21pm

Tom is an old friend of mine also.

Coogar2

5/7/18 11:06am

True, and too bad.

Santos L. Halper

5/6/18 11:05pm

That's how I remember it too. He was a good AD, though.

mantis mutu

5/6/18 11:58pm

Rondo had vision and expected to win.

Coogar2

5/7/18 11:06am

An intelligent optimist who first came to BYU as an outsider (non-member).

mantis mutu

5/7/18 11:10am

Textbook example if a Leader coming up against a cadre of Managers

Accipiter

5/6/18 11:56pm

It’s suspicious to say the least that Holmoe has been in the position

Gerald-DeGroot

5/7/18 12:58am

I would have to agree with this. Has nothing to do with how good a person he is.

Oranje

5/7/18 2:48am

Not only that, but everyone gives non-stop praise to the guy it seems.

RdF3

5/7/18 6:11am

Not only that, but his lack of leadership has also hurt the Women's sports

pspack41

5/7/18 9:45am

Hmm....funny to hear the bipolar arguments

Fido

5/7/18 11:35am

I can't speak for everyone else, but I for one was for change in football and am

Oranje

5/7/18 3:45pm

I fully support your opinion

chirocoug

5/7/18 8:03pm

Holmoe should’ve been fired the day BYUTV broadcasted the B12

Gerald-DeGroot

5/7/18 8:55pm

Should have been fired the day TCU joined the Big 12

chirocoug

5/7/18 10:57pm

In essence, they took BYU's spot

chirocoug

5/7/18 10:58pm

He was my Bishop, awesome dude

Pretorian

5/7/18 5:35am

My wife and I had the privilege of having him and his son over for dinner one...

mflood

5/7/18 5:39am

So much speculation. May have been great, I don't have anything to support it.

Benfica1

5/7/18 8:37am

Both. He was not a “yes man” like hale and holmoe. We need an AD like him

idacoug

5/7/18 3:05pm

Holmoe is at least a great diplomat. Hale was a disappointment all around.

mantis mutu

5/7/18 4:53pm

Too young to evaluate Hale

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 6:23pm

Perhaps. I was a BYU grad living in Provo.

mantis mutu

5/7/18 9:29pm

Sorry, I didn’t put a complete sentence.

D.T. Survivor

5/7/18 9:42pm

Explain diplomat

chirocoug

5/8/18 2:24pm

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