Where is the history of BYU developing NFL caliber 4-3 DEs?

Jul 18, 2018
3:28:59pm

CaliWG All-American

BYU has put a bunch of OLBs, MLBs, 3-4 DEs, and DT/NTs in the league. The guys who played DE in Schmidt's 4-3 became 3-4 DEs once they actually got to the league.

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Originally posted on Jul 18, 2018 at 3:28:59pm

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Would Kalani ever abandon "his" defense?

CaliWG

7/18/18 3:00pm

Clinging to a failing system out of sheer stubborness is a terrible thing for

SandYFan

7/18/18 3:02pm

your second sentence cracks me up.

smokymountainrain

7/18/18 3:03pm

Why? Grimes has a reputable long history of leading competent offenses.

James Halpert

7/18/18 3:04pm

But he's never been an OC before. The Peter Principle might strike here.

displacedute

7/18/18 3:06pm

RE: But he's never been an OC before. The Peter Principle might strike here.

James Halpert

7/18/18 3:10pm

Maybe take a /sarcasm from Reddit? My bad. IMG included as an apology.

displacedute

7/18/18 3:30pm

Apology accepted. It's an easy mistake to make. I wasn't lying when I said that

James Halpert

7/18/18 3:32pm

good point. i heard he was the de facto OC at Auburn. taught Chris Petersen

smokymountainrain

7/18/18 3:11pm

RE: good point. i heard he was the de facto OC at Auburn. taught Chris

James Halpert

7/18/18 3:13pm

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Byu_1988

7/18/18 4:17pm

Haha I try to put things delicately sometimes so as not to trash the team online

CaliWG

7/18/18 3:07pm

Bronco going from the 3-3-5 to a 3-4 was one of the best things he did as HC.

displacedute

7/18/18 3:13pm

Funny thing is Bronco is a full on 3-4 guy now he didn't go back to the 3-3-5 at

Kajdin

7/18/18 4:01pm

He also played a 2-5-4 in some different packages. Strange but worked well

BlueForLife

7/18/18 9:58pm

I have to disagree with the word “everyone”

kC Cougar

7/24/18 10:10am

Why are you so confident Kalani doesn't get fired after this year?

displacedute

7/18/18 3:08pm

The OL is going to be good enough to run over McNeese, USU, UH, NMS, UMass & NIU

CaliWG

7/18/18 3:18pm

Where's that 7th expected win?

displacedute

7/18/18 3:34pm

Either UofA or Cal

CaliWG

7/18/18 3:42pm

I've learned never to count my chickens before they hatch with BYU football

Byu_1988

7/18/18 4:25pm

Normally I'd agree with you. The numbers have me more confident with this group.

CaliWG

7/18/18 5:33pm

9 legitimate starting caliber OLs?

Byu_1988

7/18/18 8:07pm

BYU recruited D-Line pretty well before Bronco. CB is a problem though.

Lance71

7/18/18 3:10pm

I think the difference is that 3-4 DL need to eat up blocks

displacedute

7/18/18 3:15pm

For example

displacedute

7/18/18 3:27pm

Excellent point. The required DL skill set is very different for each scheme.

theOnceler

7/18/18 4:36pm

Most of those great BYU DL pre-Bronco became 3-4 DEs in the NFL

CaliWG

7/18/18 3:26pm

Switching defenses again that quickly would be a personnel nightmare

Cashmeousside

7/18/18 3:14pm

Such a myth that BYU can't recruit DL. Where does this come from?

Lip Gallagher

7/18/18 3:21pm

Where is the history of BYU developing NFL caliber 4-3 DEs?

CaliWG

7/18/18 3:28pm

Absolutely nothing about Ziggy is a 3-4 DE. Just because he had to play there

Lip Gallagher

7/18/18 3:46pm

Ziggy is an anomaly, if you can't acknowledge that we can't have a discussion

CaliWG

7/18/18 5:20pm

Hmm, interesting how the discussion did a 180.

Lip Gallagher

7/18/18 8:38pm

Important note: BYU isn't really playing a 4-3 defense

FiveTen-BuckEighty

7/18/18 3:49pm

True, almost nobody uses the old dinosaur 4-3 anymore.

displacedute

7/18/18 3:50pm

WOW....I haven't seen a game yet this yea, but you already know they cant rush

BYURider

7/18/18 4:12pm

Its basically the same personnel as last year

CaliWG

7/18/18 4:25pm

you really think the coaches are satisfied with the status quo?

BYURider

7/18/18 4:50pm

That's why I'm predicting 7 wins this year

CaliWG

7/18/18 5:01pm

Guess I'm more wait and see how the D does against

BYURider

7/18/18 7:44pm

He did last year. Watch his body language

Y4LYFE

7/18/18 5:41pm

What about a 4-2-5, it is worth looking at

FootFAN

7/18/18 5:51pm

Bronco went away from the 3-3-5 because recruiting good DBs is tough at BYU

CaliWG

7/18/18 5:58pm

Why would you go to fewer linebackers?

displacedute

7/18/18 5:59pm

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