So what do you base success if not performance/results?

So five more years of sub-.500 ball is okay by you? Wow.

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:37am

Comprehension fail

SUAVO

8/20/18 2:27pm

his board name checks out. A wise fan builds his house upon a...

icecougar

8/21/18 3:05am

I think we fail to look at level of opponents Kalani is facing

1984coug

8/20/18 3:08pm

Did you know: Bronco's schedules have been tougher than Kalani's?

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 5:24pm

This is the breakdown

donnerstag

8/20/18 5:31pm

5 of our opponents in 2017 spent time ranked in the CFP that season...

icecougar

8/21/18 3:18am

Didn't lose 9 games because we lost to top 25 teams.

Mr. Scoobs

8/21/18 8:51am

It's clear that he recruits better than Bronco

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:37am

Um, it is?

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:39am

This metric means a lot more than recruiting averages

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:41am

I'd argue the metric is about who performs on the field for BYU. I don't

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:42am

The Sitake recruits are all underclassmen

donnerstag

8/20/18 11:44am

Right. Hope most of them pan out.

SandYFan

8/20/18 11:46am

It doesn't actually, Bronco's staff used to lock up kids

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:11pm

Sitake is locking players up early too

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:19pm

Sitake's early recruits leave. Bronco didn't have that problem. To your point

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:22pm

Not true. Top talent comes more often under Sitake

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:26pm

Why don't we go by actual recruiting rankings like the rest of the

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:28pm

No. Because recruiting rankings doesn't include transfers

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:32pm

So you are banking on our one time boost making us

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:42pm

90% of the commits came before the 4-9 season

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:49pm

you also need to realize that taking transfers actually hurts your

Bostonblue

8/20/18 12:55pm

I would completely agree except for the fact that we had 25+

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:58pm

you need to check your facts.

Bostonblue

8/20/18 1:42pm

RE: you need to check your facts.

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 2:06pm

like I said, check your facts. Some of those are transfers.

Bostonblue

8/20/18 2:59pm

Which were counted as signees and included in the rankings

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 3:53pm

transfers don't count in the rankings.

Bostonblue

8/20/18 3:56pm

Go take a look at the calculations and points and you will

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 4:01pm

no, you are wrong. Just like you were about thinking that RB is one of the

Bostonblue

8/20/18 4:26pm

That is some sound reasoning... in other words you can't justify anything

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 4:30pm

You’re asking me to prove to you common sense

Bostonblue

8/20/18 9:13pm

Look at the lists I gave you and tell me which ones they aren't

kimdaddy35

8/21/18 11:42am

all of the transfers. again, it's common sense, you can't change

Bostonblue

8/21/18 11:48am

Which ones, this isn't hard

kimdaddy35

8/21/18 11:51am

the rivals guys have confirmed it. the link you provided

Bostonblue

8/21/18 1:11pm

So none? That is what I thought.

kimdaddy35

8/21/18 1:31pm

Ha. You want me to prove up Rivals' calculations like I work for them?

Bostonblue

8/21/18 1:37pm

No take a look at this list and tell me which ones you think aren't

kimdaddy35

8/21/18 5:28pm

I'm completely baffled why you want me to rebut the source's own position

Bostonblue

8/21/18 5:39pm

LOL, you are so funny. You can't find anyone and realize you

kimdaddy35

8/22/18 11:37am

Nope. You continue to argue over something that the Rivals

Bostonblue

8/22/18 11:54am

If you can ball you get offers... It doesn't matter who they are committed too

BrutustheBrash

8/20/18 12:37pm

If you are one of the best players in the country that is true

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:40pm

I disagree. I don't say any clear recruiting advantage. I see his recruiting

Sandy Lyle

8/20/18 12:01pm

Sure. If you ignore all the evidence

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:17pm

All the evidence says Kalani has recruited worse than

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:27pm

The only evidence you need to look at is the improved quality

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:37pm

Funny as the goal this year is for 6 wins, that means our quality has

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 12:43pm

No. Health + experience + talent + schedule are the 4 elements to success

donnerstag

8/20/18 12:47pm

Actually coaching is the #1 indicator of success in college football

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 1:22pm

Is that why when Norm Chow went from USC to Hawaii

donnerstag

8/20/18 1:33pm

Norm Chow was the head coach at USC? I don't remember that.

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 2:03pm

He was the OC of an elite offense

donnerstag

8/20/18 2:09pm

You do realize that not every great coordinator makes a great HC?

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 2:10pm

Sure. But that doesn't mean he couldn't elevate the offense

donnerstag

8/20/18 2:25pm

Good coaching leads to more wins which almost always leads

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 2:31pm

"but it can't make a mediocre team into even average territory" umm that is the

Gorum the Old

8/20/18 2:47pm

That's a bit hyperbolic

donnerstag

8/20/18 3:04pm

What world are you living in?

Byu_1988

8/20/18 1:18pm

You do realize that the team traveled nearly half walkons last year

donnerstag

8/20/18 1:32pm

No, teams don't don't carry that many walkons

ALC

8/20/18 1:44pm

RE: No, teams don't don't carry that many walkons

donnerstag

8/20/18 1:51pm

So injuries to 13 out of 85

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 2:09pm

No. We ranked almost dead last in experience last year

donnerstag

8/20/18 2:23pm

We weren't high, but we also weren't close to dead last

kimdaddy35

8/20/18 4:04pm

I know you are an affirmed Bronco hater

ALC

8/20/18 1:36pm

OK,

Gorum the Old

8/20/18 2:10pm

OK, lets look at the "improved quality" of the position groups:

Gorum the Old

8/20/18 2:23pm

All that matters is wins and losses. Bronco at this point is better that way.

dodgersjazzcougs

8/20/18 3:15pm

Yea, but BM didn't have the worst loosing season in modern history. That honor

coolblue

8/20/18 3:20pm

You must have forgotten about 2003

donnerstag

8/20/18 3:25pm

2003 finished #68 compared to #112 last year.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 3:30pm

The distortion of reality about how Bronco is bad & Kalani good is fascinating

runnincoug

8/20/18 12:10pm

I've got to step in here. Bronco recruited really good LBs. His O-Line recruits

FanofBYU

8/20/18 3:01pm

hey, if you don't count Reynolds' boys, you can't count Kalani's "cousins"!

runnincoug

8/21/18 3:20am

He's only had 2 real years to recruit. Early signings would indicate that he

FanofBYU

8/23/18 12:52pm

RE: It's clear that he recruits better than Bronco

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

8/20/18 1:47pm

RE: It's clear that he recruits better than Bronco

Gerald-DeGroot

8/20/18 4:46pm

Taysom Hill and Jamaal Williams - I'll buy that when he can put guys like

MajorPain

8/20/18 5:12pm

You know I sometimes joke about Bronco Derangement Syndrome, but this is the

BeardedSpock