RE: I'm not buying the "lack of talent" argument

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Mar 14, 2019
6:27:00pm

Gerald-DeGroot All-American

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I'm not buying the "lack of talent" argument

mjmill

3/14/19 12:01pm

The WCC is very much a coach's league. The style of play lends to having

mudpupper

3/14/19 12:14pm

"This is definitely to Rose's strong suite." ???

Mark320

3/14/19 12:47pm

Sorry, edited. Xs and Os are not his strong suite.

mudpupper

3/14/19 1:12pm

I wouldn’t pin all of it coaching

Seasider

3/14/19 12:22pm

If you go by HS rankings, loaded with 4-star talent, but if you go by the

BYURider

3/14/19 12:26pm

The problem is missions kill basketball ability. It usually takes two years to

tawillin

3/14/19 12:30pm

How is it then that Nick Emery was a fairly good right-off-his-mission as a

CMuehle

3/14/19 2:07pm

not sure how you can quantify that Yoeli "hasn't progressed at BYU"

icecougar

3/15/19 10:16am

Agree w/ Ice cougar

Prickly Heat

3/16/19 12:30am

Compare last year with this:

CMuehle

3/16/19 12:58pm

Definitely not true

jes2332

3/14/19 2:43pm

The eye test and actual production very much indicate a talent problem.

ag4cougs

3/14/19 12:57pm

Best high school team in byu basketball history!

youngbuck

3/14/19 12:58pm

Amen brother. It's not the players.

andrewg3

3/14/19 12:59pm

Man, how weird is it that people aren't playing up to their HS star ratings?

Parkcity_and

3/14/19 1:00pm

Without disagreeing with your main point, St Mary’s has a lot

gwalker

3/14/19 1:04pm

Definitely. SMC has a unique recruiting approach and is great at unearthing

mjmill

3/14/19 1:08pm

I think with foreign players, a "star" is assigned once they commit, but not

flyzag

3/14/19 2:38pm

For BYU to be competitive, it needs a high quality point guard. Since Collins-

Archaea

3/14/19 4:42pm

The more talented team by far on the court last Saturday was BYU and yet we

kimdaddy35

3/14/19 1:29pm

I am buying the lack of coaching argument, however.....

BDAWG

3/14/19 1:52pm

It's easy to see by WATCHING that the talent drop is obvious

RockyBalboa

3/14/19 2:44pm

talented athletes that are coached poorly also appear to suffer from lack of talent. coaching matters.

Bob Vance

3/14/19 3:34pm

Coaching obviously matters

RockyBalboa

3/14/19 8:53pm

as an outsider:

flyzag

3/14/19 3:53pm

I like this guy ☝️

MD Rebel Coug

3/14/19 4:28pm

mika leaving, bryant leaving and emery getting suspended were all pretty big

buckeyecougarguy

3/14/19 2:44pm

Pardon my French, but how the h*ck was Kolby Lee a 4-star?!

stev

3/14/19 3:06pm

I do have to laugh that Luke was a three star, and Kolby was a four star! That

BYU I Bleed Blue

3/14/19 3:07pm

I was about to say the same thing

Oldcougfan

3/14/19 3:47pm

That was baffling even at the time he got that ranking...I have family that

BYUfan92

3/14/19 9:20pm

I do buy the lack of talent argument.

Oldcougfan

3/14/19 3:52pm

Agreed that stars don’t always get it right, but...

MD Rebel Coug

3/14/19 4:33pm

Lack Of size in the front court killed BYU this year.

The Natural

3/14/19 4:47pm

And a lack of a point guard. No control of game flow when you don't have a PG

Archaea

3/14/19 4:49pm

Yep. Rose loves small ball. Zac ain’t a PF

Coogar2

3/14/19 4:58pm

I’m willing to arm wrestle TJ.

Coogar2

3/14/19 5:01pm

I agree 100%

WannabeAA

3/14/19 5:31pm

RE: I'm not buying the "lack of talent" argument

Gerald-DeGroot

3/14/19 6:27pm

The fact that Nixon was considered a 3-star recruit tells you all you

byuguns55

3/14/19 7:01pm

HS ratings are one thing. What do your eyes tell you? We are seriously lacking

UNHuskerCoug

3/14/19 7:06pm

Who had more talent when POPE with UVU beat Rose..IN the MC?

CarolinaCoug

3/14/19 11:15pm

That year? I would say it was pretty even. They had a good team.

UNHuskerCoug

3/15/19 12:37pm

The biggest problem is the culture of the team...

icecougar

3/14/19 7:23pm

Who had more talent when Pipe beat Eose UVU st the MC?

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