Independence &gt; crappy conference 100% of the time

Jun 24, 2019
9:27:49pm

Machiavelli Playmaker

Independence > crappy conference 100% of the time

Also, I believe there's a better chance of qualifying for the playoffs as an Independent rather than being in a crappy conference.

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McMurphy: BYU and AAC previously negotiated on BYU membership

Gustav

6/24/19 12:04pm

Is that translation for "BYU is difficult to work with?"

TNT

6/24/19 12:06pm

If you're anti-BYU. In reality, it means BYU has options. Doesn't have to

AZcougLawyer

6/24/19 12:09pm

I think it’s translation for BYU doesn’t want to lose money by joining a conference

TCuz

6/24/19 12:10pm

They’d prefer to have more money than more wins. Makes sense...

Traveshamockery

6/24/19 1:00pm

To a degree, sure. Wins for the sake of wins are pointless.

TCuz

6/24/19 1:09pm

At least 2/3 of P5 schools agree.

Y05

6/24/19 3:06pm

If you want more wins move to D2!

StalwartBraveTrue

6/24/19 3:19pm

By your logic, why not join a crappy conference to get easy wins!

Machiavelli

6/24/19 3:24pm

So you want 7-5 as an independent or 10-2 in a crappy conference

Traveshamockery

6/24/19 7:06pm

And now your G5 ESPN doesn’t want you and you now suck

BYU Grounds

6/24/19 9:01pm

Independence > crappy conference 100% of the time

Machiavelli

6/24/19 9:27pm

That’s fine. Let’s talk on 9/22. Hopefully I’m wrong.

Traveshamockery

6/24/19 11:18pm

Seriously? So what’s so wrong about dominating FCS?

StalwartBraveTrue

6/25/19 11:05am

Ugh. Please stop with this counter. It’s just silly.

Traveshamockery

6/25/19 1:15pm

It’s no more silly than trading status and opportunity for

StalwartBraveTrue

6/26/19 7:12pm

RE: Is that translation for "BYU is difficult to work with?"

Gustav

6/24/19 12:10pm

BYU already subsidized multiple conferences and conference members.

byubyu

6/24/19 12:12pm

Which included utah for 30 years....

coot20

6/24/19 12:54pm

The "difficult to work with" quote came directly from Big East admin, not Big 12

boscatar

6/24/19 12:13pm

At that time the Big East was sooooo shaky. BYU was right to be hesitant...

icecougar

6/24/19 12:36pm

Sometimes "difficult to work with" simply means "won't do exactly what I want"

SoCalCoug

6/24/19 12:47pm

Totally agree. Conferences are not going to give the upper hand to a “BYU”.

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

6/24/19 1:35pm

This is probable the correct translation.

baldcougar

6/24/19 1:37pm

It translates into "can you match what we can do for ourselves on our own? No? Then no thanks."

CalGTR

6/24/19 12:58pm

That "wanted to be treated differently from other members" quot was a sneaky jab

Punk Philosopher

6/24/19 2:29pm

RE: That "wanted to be treated differently from other members" quot was a sneaky

byublue42

6/24/19 3:21pm

The agenda and framing against BYU has many angles and many foes

Punk Philosopher

6/24/19 5:47pm

BYU should learn from Utah getting into P12, don't make demands

jackryanslc

6/24/19 12:55pm

LoL. This is the AAC we are talking about, not the pac-12

LiveCoug

6/24/19 1:08pm

Has Utah ever been in a position to demand?

FairWeather-L.I.T.S.

6/24/19 1:19pm

Utah to the PAC-12 = big revenue boost. BYU to AAC = big loss in revenue.

Machiavelli

6/24/19 3:27pm

Uhhh

ochobeeguy

6/24/19 6:09pm

That is the same reason the BIG12 didn't take BYU. Clearly BYU was the

blackshirts

6/24/19 1:05pm

You can't compare negotiations with B12 and AAC to each other

Gustav

6/24/19 1:09pm

Ok TH...

blackshirts

6/24/19 1:22pm

Couldn’t be further from the truth! I am sure when you posted you believe your words to be truthful. However, what you

Cougarpride

6/24/19 2:51pm

Talking about 2011 when BYU was the big fish.

blackshirts

6/24/19 3:00pm

Good negotiating from BYU for once. BYU rejected a bad offer.

YIsForBrigham

6/24/19 1:09pm

BYU had a strong position for negotation, they should have been asking for more

Hill4Heisman

6/24/19 3:10pm

I'm pretty sure it's all about rebroadcasting rights

chazen

6/24/19 3:43pm

That was my interpretation too. Not necessarily about wanting more money.

Eddie

6/24/19 4:04pm

BYU deserves more from AAC, walking away was right move.

Dr MoBYU

6/24/19 4:33pm

Umm, yeah, back when BSU and SDSU also "joined" the Big East (AAC)

jsjohnson1278

6/24/19 4:34pm

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