their experience, the more people can be reached. Not just those struggling w/ substance issues, but loved ones. If you don't have a family member struggling w/ this, you likely will. Or just know about it. All the traditional and normal ways of responding when discovering a loved one's struggle are usually the wrong reaction. We misinterpret their behavior as not caring, not wanting to get better, as if they're out there having a grand ol time drugging it up. THey're miserable. Frustration leads to doing the opposite of those struggling need, so Thx for sharing your experience Lux Luther(I'll remember yer name easier this way TIA). Takes a real stand up dude to share what you just did, and nobody takes it as bragging. I see it clearly for what it is. Caring more about your fellow human beings and their relatives than your pride or image. For that, I seriously thank you. Secretiveness and embarrassment cultivates and fosters the problem, by both substance abusers and their family. Thx again LL.