My passion and study is on the “under dog” below average kid

Sep 22, 2019
3:11:14pm

Punk Philosopher All-American

Here’s the short version of my interest in the outliers:

Excellence through adversity

A Camas man who experienced several challenges while in high school would like local students to know there is hope for them to succeed in life.

http://www.camaspostrecord.com/news/2011/oct/18/excellence-through-adversity/[https://www.camaspostrecord.com/news/2011/oct/18/excellence-through-adversity/]

I will post the long version below.

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any of you read the book Outliers?

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 8:58am

Read “the Sports Gene”. This idea is put to bed.

runitup590

9/22/19 9:00am

Very interesting. So it was based on retrospective data.

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 9:15am

Similar to what Epstein does.. both camps can find stories and some

cougfanz

9/22/19 9:37am

Debunked

More of a Jazz Fan

9/22/19 9:04am

Turns out that is false.

YIsForBrigham

9/22/19 9:12am

10,000 hours is not for sports, except golf and gymnastics where you have

BeefNoodleSoup

9/22/19 9:13am

Except for golf or gymnastics? What?

garyfan

9/22/19 9:26am

It's explained in the book Range by David Epstein.

BeefNoodleSoup

9/22/19 9:31am

Not even close to true. In golf, you either have it or you don’t.

RdF3

9/22/19 12:10pm

Read the book or listen to the podcast.

BeefNoodleSoup

9/22/19 4:36pm

Outliers doesn't say you don't need talent at all. But for activities where

BeefNoodleSoup

9/22/19 4:40pm

My FIL has played an average of around 30 ish holes a day for 25+ years. He’s had hundreds of hours of personal coaching

Zach Morris

9/22/19 5:03pm

Here is the podcast:

BeefNoodleSoup

9/22/19 8:18pm

I’m listening to the podcast and it doesn’t support your point.

garyfan

9/25/19 10:12am

No one ever said anyone can become a golf star. You need some talent.

BeefNoodleSoup

10/3/19 8:38am

Also, where did you get the idea that Bronco practiced more?

BeefNoodleSoup

9/22/19 9:14am

No more. Just more efficiently and it was full effort.

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 9:36am

Lol

Backcountry

9/22/19 10:36am

Where did the easier than baseball comment come

truecougster

9/22/19 11:06am

If I had to guess it was Bushman

BeefNoodleSoup

9/22/19 11:08am

Forgot he played baseball, I was thinking Hall, if it was

truecougster

9/22/19 11:12am

All the practice in the world won't make me 6' 4" tall & 240 lbs

cougarmeister

9/22/19 9:41am

With enough practice with coke and donuts you could get to 240 though

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9/22/19 12:25pm

I'm working on that now

cougarmeister

9/22/19 12:34pm

More irrational Bronco love. You people are obsessed.

Backcountry

9/22/19 10:35am

That’s Pretty rude, Backcountry. Guess I’m off your Christmas List.

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 11:51am

RE: More irrational Bronco love. You people are obsessed.

PJMort

9/22/19 12:26pm

You're right, Bronco was worse than Kalani. 😬

SaintGeorgeYFan

9/22/19 1:53pm

Agreed

bigjohn

9/22/19 5:05pm

Thats exactly right

Backcountry

9/22/19 5:34pm

I read it back in 2011

Punk Philosopher

9/22/19 11:04am

I’d be interested to know your thoughts, if a below ave kid can excel in school

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 11:53am

My passion and study is on the “under dog” below average kid

Punk Philosopher

9/22/19 3:11pm

Annnnnd the long version:

Punk Philosopher

9/22/19 3:12pm

Thanks for sharing that. Very insightful and real.

osbooks

9/22/19 3:51pm

Thank you so much for your inspiring words.

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 9:07pm

Wow, great post and thanks for sharing.

garyfan

9/22/19 9:47pm

The book was based on research done by someone else. The actual researcher did

SouthernBlueBlood

9/22/19 2:16pm

I listened to it this week, would agree.

kooogar

9/22/19 2:33pm

I'm 5' 10" and 170.

CosmoK

9/22/19 11:11am

10,000 hours

Jesse Pinkman

9/22/19 11:44am

A lot.

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 12:03pm

People are missing the point and there is some truth to what Outliers says

jes2332

9/22/19 2:14pm

This is a good takeaway.

Dr MoBYU

9/22/19 2:19pm

that's what I got out of it and have seen it

jes2332

9/22/19 2:27pm

I think this is a really good point. Broncos systems produced those

Pelican

9/22/19 2:35pm

No, it can help you outperform more talented people who dont work as hard

Resurgens

9/22/19 5:17pm

Holmoe at education week. "You can't win the Kentucky Derby with a Mule"

baldcoug74

9/22/19 5:30pm

So, UW totally out executed us. More practice or better practice?

oldrugger

9/22/19 6:26pm

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