OSU and Wazzu are better fits for the MWC

Nov 13, 2019
9:02:23am

Doogal McCougar Walk-on

Add them to the MWC and bring in Hawaii and BYU to the PAC. That would improve both the PAC's and the MWC's media deals.

PAC

NORTH

Washington
Oregon
Colorado
Utah
BYU
Hawaii

SOUTH

USC
UCLA
Stanford
Cal
Arizona
Arizona State

MWC

MOUNTAIN

Boise State
Utah State
Wyoming
Colorado State
Air Force
New Mexico
UTEP

WEST

Oregon State
Washington State
San Diego State
Fresno State
San Jose State
Nevada
UNLV

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Time

Freaking college football, we deserve better

BYUCougarsFan

11/12/19 6:32pm

Yep. BYU is a power program. It’s a travesty we aren’t P5

YIsForBrigham

11/12/19 6:34pm

I’ve been to many games

Tsisquan

11/12/19 6:53pm

I almost don't believe that figure for Colorado. No way 51,000 people care

Game Changer

11/12/19 6:55pm

Then you’ve never lived in boulder. Which I did

run26

11/12/19 7:01pm

That is broncos country. They don't care much for college football there

Dr T-bone

11/12/19 8:21pm

They hosted both Nebraska & USC this year

CaliWG

11/12/19 9:27pm

What is really crazy is after Utah expands their stadium

davidmj10

11/12/19 7:15pm

They're expecting a REALLY big band to fill the extra seats...

SwisshQiumi

11/12/19 7:19pm

I must not get that.

davidmj10

11/12/19 7:30pm

CB showed lots of empty seats in their "sellouts," Utes claimed it was the band

SwisshQiumi

11/12/19 7:36pm

Oh I saw that.

davidmj10

11/12/19 8:33pm

Agree. Seems like most fans on here are content with 7-8 wins though.

guitarplayingcougar

11/12/19 7:58pm

Um, no. But, many fans don't feel the need to give up on the team after a loss.

Benfica1

11/12/19 10:33pm

It really is a shame BYU is not in a P5. It is so frustrating and disappointing

311polo

11/12/19 9:06pm

You must be talking about the PAC as well, BYU's natural footprint

Borg

11/12/19 10:35pm

I'd be totally happy to have BYU in the Pac-14 add Colorado State also.

311polo

11/13/19 9:37am

Thx. If every Utah fan were like you I'd have "zero" problem cheering for Utah.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/12/19 10:39pm

*eye roll*

DocPimp

11/12/19 11:36pm

You really don't see the differences between BYU, Baylor, and ND?

RalphWiggam

11/13/19 12:28am

Okay, so I'm a fan (and alum) of both schools, although Utah is my #1 team. Do I think BYU should be P5? Absolutely. Do

Et Lux in Domino

11/13/19 1:54am

Media rights is a factor, but BYU is willing to abandon them if necessary

311polo

11/13/19 9:41am

I agree with all of this

teancum

11/13/19 10:23am

Does ND and Baylor have an HC that holds students to something higher than

Pretorian

11/13/19 4:16am

You realize that BYU actually has standards and tries to live up to them and...

311polo

11/13/19 9:40am

Nice to know "Utahma11" is still so full of hate. SMH.....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/13/19 3:20pm

Oh, and Wazzu should probably be G5 based on those numbers.

311polo

11/12/19 9:07pm

Wazzu is also an interesting team no less

Pretorian

11/13/19 4:17am

OSU and Wazzu are better fits for the MWC

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 9:02am

Yup because attendance rather than W/L is most important.

DocPimp

11/12/19 9:15pm

Uhhh...Oregon State? Arizona?

andrewg3

11/12/19 9:27pm

Yeah BYU more deserving that Oregon State. Lol I agree.

DocPimp

11/12/19 10:18pm

Doesn't matter they were grandfathered inn

mudpupper

11/13/19 7:32am

Exactly my point. If W/L mattered, they would get the boot.

andrewg3

11/13/19 9:42am

Is W/L most important?

RalphWiggam

11/13/19 12:30am

It isn’t one thing, it’s a lot of different things including fit.

DocPimp

11/13/19 5:13am

I think that is fair for the most part.

RalphWiggam

11/14/19 12:33am

Oh yeah W/L is just another piece - along with attendance, brand, and every

DocPimp

11/14/19 5:16am

and CU was not doing particularly well when they were invited, IIRC.

Scooter

11/13/19 10:29am

BYU has one of the most winningest coaches in CFB (#6)

Pretorian

11/13/19 4:20am

What are the Big 12 numbers?

IronPotato

11/12/19 10:10pm

,We would be #3 after Texas and Oklahoma.

Norge Coug

11/13/19 4:41am

And, I believe #2 in the ACC, behind only Clemson

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 9:48am

Deserve? Of course, but we all know why we are not in a conference

MajorZeus

11/13/19 6:24am

Compared to the entire PAC 12, Big 12, and ACC, BYU is #5 out of 37 teams

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 9:57am

Mic drop

Pretorian

11/13/19 11:18am

attendance matters but it is way down the list...

byumagic

11/13/19 2:01pm

The modern SEC built its brand off of the college football environment

CaliWG

11/13/19 2:26pm

SEC is in some of the best college football markets

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 2:41pm

But BYU is NOT an institutional fit (ie top tier research schools) with the Pac.

DocPimp

11/13/19 5:05pm

See also AD revenues, which correlate somewhat to attendance.

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 2:37pm

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