I think that is fair for the most part.

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Nov 14, 2019
12:33:46am

RalphWiggam All-American

Your previous post about winning being the most important factor wasn’t accurate.

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RalphWiggam

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Freaking college football, we deserve better

BYUCougarsFan

11/12/19 6:32pm

Yep. BYU is a power program. It’s a travesty we aren’t P5

YIsForBrigham

11/12/19 6:34pm

I’ve been to many games

Tsisquan

11/12/19 6:53pm

I almost don't believe that figure for Colorado. No way 51,000 people care

Game Changer

11/12/19 6:55pm

Then you’ve never lived in boulder. Which I did

run26

11/12/19 7:01pm

That is broncos country. They don't care much for college football there

Dr T-bone

11/12/19 8:21pm

They hosted both Nebraska & USC this year

CaliWG

11/12/19 9:27pm

What is really crazy is after Utah expands their stadium

davidmj10

11/12/19 7:15pm

They're expecting a REALLY big band to fill the extra seats...

SwisshQiumi

11/12/19 7:19pm

I must not get that.

davidmj10

11/12/19 7:30pm

CB showed lots of empty seats in their "sellouts," Utes claimed it was the band

SwisshQiumi

11/12/19 7:36pm

Oh I saw that.

davidmj10

11/12/19 8:33pm

Agree. Seems like most fans on here are content with 7-8 wins though.

guitarplayingcougar

11/12/19 7:58pm

Um, no. But, many fans don't feel the need to give up on the team after a loss.

Benfica1

11/12/19 10:33pm

It really is a shame BYU is not in a P5. It is so frustrating and disappointing

311polo

11/12/19 9:06pm

You must be talking about the PAC as well, BYU's natural footprint

Borg

11/12/19 10:35pm

I'd be totally happy to have BYU in the Pac-14 add Colorado State also.

311polo

11/13/19 9:37am

Thx. If every Utah fan were like you I'd have "zero" problem cheering for Utah.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/12/19 10:39pm

*eye roll*

DocPimp

11/12/19 11:36pm

You really don't see the differences between BYU, Baylor, and ND?

RalphWiggam

11/13/19 12:28am

Okay, so I'm a fan (and alum) of both schools, although Utah is my #1 team. Do I think BYU should be P5? Absolutely. Do

Et Lux in Domino

11/13/19 1:54am

Media rights is a factor, but BYU is willing to abandon them if necessary

311polo

11/13/19 9:41am

I agree with all of this

teancum

11/13/19 10:23am

Does ND and Baylor have an HC that holds students to something higher than

Pretorian

11/13/19 4:16am

You realize that BYU actually has standards and tries to live up to them and...

311polo

11/13/19 9:40am

Nice to know "Utahma11" is still so full of hate. SMH.....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/13/19 3:20pm

Oh, and Wazzu should probably be G5 based on those numbers.

311polo

11/12/19 9:07pm

Wazzu is also an interesting team no less

Pretorian

11/13/19 4:17am

OSU and Wazzu are better fits for the MWC

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 9:02am

Yup because attendance rather than W/L is most important.

DocPimp

11/12/19 9:15pm

Uhhh...Oregon State? Arizona?

andrewg3

11/12/19 9:27pm

Yeah BYU more deserving that Oregon State. Lol I agree.

DocPimp

11/12/19 10:18pm

Doesn't matter they were grandfathered inn

mudpupper

11/13/19 7:32am

Exactly my point. If W/L mattered, they would get the boot.

andrewg3

11/13/19 9:42am

Is W/L most important?

RalphWiggam

11/13/19 12:30am

It isn’t one thing, it’s a lot of different things including fit.

DocPimp

11/13/19 5:13am

I think that is fair for the most part.

RalphWiggam

11/14/19 12:33am

Oh yeah W/L is just another piece - along with attendance, brand, and every

DocPimp

11/14/19 5:16am

and CU was not doing particularly well when they were invited, IIRC.

Scooter

11/13/19 10:29am

BYU has one of the most winningest coaches in CFB (#6)

Pretorian

11/13/19 4:20am

What are the Big 12 numbers?

IronPotato

11/12/19 10:10pm

,We would be #3 after Texas and Oklahoma.

Norge Coug

11/13/19 4:41am

And, I believe #2 in the ACC, behind only Clemson

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 9:48am

Deserve? Of course, but we all know why we are not in a conference

MajorZeus

11/13/19 6:24am

Compared to the entire PAC 12, Big 12, and ACC, BYU is #5 out of 37 teams

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 9:57am

Mic drop

Pretorian

11/13/19 11:18am

attendance matters but it is way down the list...

byumagic

11/13/19 2:01pm

The modern SEC built its brand off of the college football environment

CaliWG

11/13/19 2:26pm

SEC is in some of the best college football markets

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 2:41pm

But BYU is NOT an institutional fit (ie top tier research schools) with the Pac.

DocPimp

11/13/19 5:05pm

See also AD revenues, which correlate somewhat to attendance.

Doogal McCougar

11/13/19 2:37pm

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