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Nov 17, 2019
12:48:31am

formerly utesplease All-American

ASU, Cal, Wazzu, and OSU are 5-5 with losses to Utah

So if Utah loses those games those teams are over .500. This is a stupid self serving benchmark.

and no, ASU over Michigan State, Arizona over Texas tech by 14, Cal over Ole Miss, Colorado over Nebraska, and Wazzu over Houston are all better wins than Utah over BYU

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Originally posted on Nov 17, 2019 at 12:48:31am

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formerly utesplease

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Utah will only have 2 wins over teams with a winning record. BYU and Washington

johnnybyu

11/16/19 11:54pm

Maybe we should lose to UMass and SDSU purposely to make their SOS even worse.

chilango

11/16/19 11:58pm

IF we did it would likely kill Utah's playoff chances. No way they would get in

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:01am

If Utah wins out and beats Oregon they are in the playoff.

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:07am

I think they have a shot. But BYU is actually helping them. If BYU had a

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:10am

Bama won’t get in as the committee will take Tua’s injury into account. Georgia

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:22am

If Bama defeats Auburn without Tua they might have a chance to be in

pappabear246

11/17/19 7:20am

Maybe. Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU (if they lose to Georgia), tOSU (if they lose

chilango

11/17/19 12:29am

Alabama and Minnesota are done for. No way they make it in

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 12:33am

Because Bama lost to the #1 team by 5 points. That is crazy talk. They are

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:35am

Bama has a garbage schedule this year.

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:37am

Have you seen utah’s schedule?

chilango

11/17/19 12:39am

Bama has one win vs a team with a winning record. They lost to the only good

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:45am

No, they have 2 so far: Texas A&M and Southern Miss. If they beat Auburn, that’s

chilango

11/17/19 12:52am

It won’t matter when the conference championship games are played and they are

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:55am

BM 2017

chilango

11/17/19 1:00am

Agreed but Utah's is worse

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:40am

Can you imagine the reaction if 3 SEC teams are picked? Not gonna happen.

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 12:55am

Of course its not it will be Clemson, OSU, LSU and either an SEC team or Oklahom

johnnybyu

11/17/19 1:13am

Who’s OSU? Do you mean tOSU? 😜

Pretorian

11/18/19 3:27am

Bama is already ahead of them, so who knows? Minnesota is a long shot for sure,

chilango

11/17/19 12:38am

Tua’s gone and their schedule is garbage. If 2 SEC teams make it in it’ll be LSU and UGA

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 12:55am

I think you’re underestimating the power of the Bama, SEC, and Big Ten brands,

chilango

11/17/19 12:58am

Yep, part of Alabama’s brand is never losing. They lost to LSU and now their starting QB is out.

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 1:20am

Again, you might want to check out what happened in 2017.

chilango

11/17/19 1:21am

Again, there is 0% chance they let in 3 SEC teams and LSU/Georgia are both ahead of Bama

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 1:56am

If LSU beats Georgia, then Bama would be the #2 team in the SEC pecking order

chilango

11/17/19 2:05am

3 SEC teams would be cool if it accelerated the move to 8 teams, I agree. But after losing to LSU,

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 2:49am

No, I’m talking about the 2017 season (Jan. 2018 championship game), when Bama

chilango

11/17/19 2:58am

There were a lot of 1-loss teams at the top that year. This year there are probably 3 undefeated teams.

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 3:42am

It is definitely not that simple

Pretorian

11/18/19 3:22am

This is the most physical Ute team I've ever seen and they are very good but

Coug Dude

11/17/19 12:01am

I don't think they will either but agree they are really good. Its funny the

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:03am

As Brady Quinn said to Urban after calling them a CFP team:

Coug Man in Florida

11/17/19 12:27am

If there's any crowding at all with one loss teams, Utah is out b/c SOS will be weighed heavily.

Soupie

11/17/19 12:28am

Oklahoma's ooc is actually worse than Utah thanks to BYU. The big 12 is stronge

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:30am

OCC might be weak but their conf is better so Big 12 still gets overall advantage on SOS vs PAC.

Soupie

11/17/19 12:33am

if the big 12 is better than the pac its closer than you make it sound

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:55am

RE: Oklahoma's ooc is actually worse than Utah thanks to BYU. The big 12 is

Cast

11/17/19 7:35am

Big 12 Championship Game is December 7

ReyOso

11/17/19 7:49am

Oklahoma has a tougher conference schedule than Utah

pappabear246

11/17/19 8:02am

that was during halftime of a blowout Utah win. Thanks for watching

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:56am

You’re welcome. If you’re mocking me for it, it’s funny you’re doing so

Coug Man in Florida

11/17/19 8:54pm

We can’t let that happen

bigjohn

11/17/19 7:26am

What we would want and reality are two different things.

11/17/19 7:46am

Hmm. But take out the 9 losses to Utah

TFL

11/17/19 12:31am

Plus take out the rest of the losses and they are all undefeated and ranked #1

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:33am

ASU, Cal, Wazzu, and OSU are 5-5 with losses to Utah

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:48am

I believe the ultimate benchmark will be

TFL

11/17/19 12:51am

that is still stupid. I prefer ones that use statistical models

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:53am

BYU is currently ranked higher than all of those teams and have fairly recent wi

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:58am

That’s the whole point...see how you’re excited

TFL

11/17/19 1:05am

The point was those wins were somehow better than BYU which doesn't make

johnnybyu

11/17/19 1:09am

Yes...BYU was a great win for Utah bc

TFL

11/17/19 1:17am

BYU was a "great win" but their Wazzu, ASU, UCLA Oregon St wins all better

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 1:26am

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chilango

11/17/19 1:12am

lol you’re talking in circles now

Pretorian

11/17/19 6:29am

i can promise you michigan state and texas tech are ranked higher than byu

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 1:14am

Mich. St., Texas Tech, Ole Miss, and Nebraska are all 4-6, and Houston is 3-7.

chilango

11/17/19 1:11am

those wins all came at the hands of 4-5/6 pac 12 teams. But congrats on that

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 1:15am

OK, so bad teams beat other bad teams. Not sure what is your point here?

chilango

11/17/19 1:31am

Lol. They represent the murderer’s row

TFL

11/17/19 1:26am

Yeah, no one would call it a Murderer’s Row, except someone creating a strawman.

chilango

11/17/19 1:33am

Has G5 Houston even won a FBS game this yr? You're way off. Even w/ NU & TT...

wickedgame71

11/17/19 8:45am

Is this smack? If so, it isn't very good. It may hold them back, but they have

coolblue

11/17/19 7:18am

Beating fluff teams like Liberty, Idaho state and umass

coldcoug

11/17/19 8:08am

Utah is #7 in the playoff standings. Which teams behind them...

Sweetness

11/17/19 10:21am

Penn State for sure, and arguably Oklahoma now that they beat Baylor on the road

chilango

11/17/19 10:28am

I agree with that. Oklahoma it’s probably 6s but penn and minn better now.

Sweetness

11/17/19 2:57pm

I agree that it’s unlikely that Penn St or Minnesota can run the table. I do

chilango

11/17/19 3:26pm

And need to 4 or higher.

Soupie

11/17/19 11:43am

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