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Nov 17, 2019
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Utah will only have 2 wins over teams with a winning record. BYU and Washington

johnnybyu

11/16/19 11:54pm

Maybe we should lose to UMass and SDSU purposely to make their SOS even worse.

chilango

11/16/19 11:58pm

IF we did it would likely kill Utah's playoff chances. No way they would get in

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:01am

If Utah wins out and beats Oregon they are in the playoff.

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:07am

I think they have a shot. But BYU is actually helping them. If BYU had a

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:10am

Bama won’t get in as the committee will take Tua’s injury into account. Georgia

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:22am

If Bama defeats Auburn without Tua they might have a chance to be in

pappabear246

11/17/19 7:20am

Maybe. Alabama, Oklahoma, LSU (if they lose to Georgia), tOSU (if they lose

chilango

11/17/19 12:29am

Alabama and Minnesota are done for. No way they make it in

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 12:33am

Because Bama lost to the #1 team by 5 points. That is crazy talk. They are

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:35am

Bama has a garbage schedule this year.

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:37am

Have you seen utah’s schedule?

chilango

11/17/19 12:39am

Bama has one win vs a team with a winning record. They lost to the only good

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:45am

No, they have 2 so far: Texas A&M and Southern Miss. If they beat Auburn, that’s

chilango

11/17/19 12:52am

It won’t matter when the conference championship games are played and they are

jazzfan1232

11/17/19 12:55am

BM 2017

chilango

11/17/19 1:00am

Agreed but Utah's is worse

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:40am

Can you imagine the reaction if 3 SEC teams are picked? Not gonna happen.

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 12:55am

Of course its not it will be Clemson, OSU, LSU and either an SEC team or Oklahom

johnnybyu

11/17/19 1:13am

Who’s OSU? Do you mean tOSU? 😜

Pretorian

11/18/19 3:27am

Bama is already ahead of them, so who knows? Minnesota is a long shot for sure,

chilango

11/17/19 12:38am

Tua’s gone and their schedule is garbage. If 2 SEC teams make it in it’ll be LSU and UGA

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 12:55am

I think you’re underestimating the power of the Bama, SEC, and Big Ten brands,

chilango

11/17/19 12:58am

Yep, part of Alabama’s brand is never losing. They lost to LSU and now their starting QB is out.

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 1:20am

Again, you might want to check out what happened in 2017.

chilango

11/17/19 1:21am

Again, there is 0% chance they let in 3 SEC teams and LSU/Georgia are both ahead of Bama

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 1:56am

If LSU beats Georgia, then Bama would be the #2 team in the SEC pecking order

chilango

11/17/19 2:05am

3 SEC teams would be cool if it accelerated the move to 8 teams, I agree. But after losing to LSU,

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 2:49am

No, I’m talking about the 2017 season (Jan. 2018 championship game), when Bama

chilango

11/17/19 2:58am

There were a lot of 1-loss teams at the top that year. This year there are probably 3 undefeated teams.

Mike Honcho

11/17/19 3:42am

It is definitely not that simple

Pretorian

11/18/19 3:22am

This is the most physical Ute team I've ever seen and they are very good but

Coug Dude

11/17/19 12:01am

I don't think they will either but agree they are really good. Its funny the

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:03am

As Brady Quinn said to Urban after calling them a CFP team:

Coug Man in Florida

11/17/19 12:27am

If there's any crowding at all with one loss teams, Utah is out b/c SOS will be weighed heavily.

Soupie

11/17/19 12:28am

Oklahoma's ooc is actually worse than Utah thanks to BYU. The big 12 is stronge

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:30am

OCC might be weak but their conf is better so Big 12 still gets overall advantage on SOS vs PAC.

Soupie

11/17/19 12:33am

if the big 12 is better than the pac its closer than you make it sound

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:55am

RE: Oklahoma's ooc is actually worse than Utah thanks to BYU. The big 12 is

Cast

11/17/19 7:35am

Big 12 Championship Game is December 7

ReyOso

11/17/19 7:49am

Oklahoma has a tougher conference schedule than Utah

pappabear246

11/17/19 8:02am

that was during halftime of a blowout Utah win. Thanks for watching

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:56am

You’re welcome. If you’re mocking me for it, it’s funny you’re doing so

Coug Man in Florida

11/17/19 8:54pm

We can’t let that happen

bigjohn

11/17/19 7:26am

What we would want and reality are two different things.

bluecougar1985

11/17/19 7:46am

Hmm. But take out the 9 losses to Utah

TFL

11/17/19 12:31am

Plus take out the rest of the losses and they are all undefeated and ranked #1

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:33am

ASU, Cal, Wazzu, and OSU are 5-5 with losses to Utah

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:48am

I believe the ultimate benchmark will be

TFL

11/17/19 12:51am

that is still stupid. I prefer ones that use statistical models

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 12:53am

BYU is currently ranked higher than all of those teams and have fairly recent wi

johnnybyu

11/17/19 12:58am

That’s the whole point...see how you’re excited

TFL

11/17/19 1:05am

The point was those wins were somehow better than BYU which doesn't make

johnnybyu

11/17/19 1:09am

Yes...BYU was a great win for Utah bc

TFL

11/17/19 1:17am

BYU was a "great win" but their Wazzu, ASU, UCLA Oregon St wins all better

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 1:26am

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chilango

11/17/19 1:12am

lol you’re talking in circles now

Pretorian

11/17/19 6:29am

i can promise you michigan state and texas tech are ranked higher than byu

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 1:14am

Mich. St., Texas Tech, Ole Miss, and Nebraska are all 4-6, and Houston is 3-7.

chilango

11/17/19 1:11am

those wins all came at the hands of 4-5/6 pac 12 teams. But congrats on that

formerly utesplease

11/17/19 1:15am

OK, so bad teams beat other bad teams. Not sure what is your point here?

chilango

11/17/19 1:31am

Lol. They represent the murderer’s row

TFL

11/17/19 1:26am

Yeah, no one would call it a Murderer’s Row, except someone creating a strawman.

chilango

11/17/19 1:33am

Has G5 Houston even won a FBS game this yr? You're way off. Even w/ NU & TT...

wickedgame71

11/17/19 8:45am

Is this smack? If so, it isn't very good. It may hold them back, but they have

coolblue

11/17/19 7:18am

Beating fluff teams like Liberty, Idaho state and umass

coldcoug

11/17/19 8:08am

Utah is #7 in the playoff standings. Which teams behind them...

Sweetness

11/17/19 10:21am

Penn State for sure, and arguably Oklahoma now that they beat Baylor on the road

chilango

11/17/19 10:28am

I agree with that. Oklahoma it’s probably 6s but penn and minn better now.

Sweetness

11/17/19 2:57pm

I agree that it’s unlikely that Penn St or Minnesota can run the table. I do

chilango

11/17/19 3:26pm

And need to 4 or higher.

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