One that is correct...

Jan 8, 2020
10:51:02am

CoachSpeak All-American

BYU fans will never be happy if they don't lower expectations because BYU will never live up to current fan expectations. Most of us expect fairly regular double digit win seasons, it is unrealistic but we expect it.

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Jay Drew on 1280. Quote..."BYU fans should lower their expectations..." lol...

Mathew

1/8/20 9:22am

*beet rider

foofcoug

1/8/20 9:23am

RE: *beet rider

TheWanderer

1/8/20 9:34am

an honest one.

shimmy

1/8/20 9:23am

Agreed it's a weird thing for a beat writer to say. But...is he wrong?

macdizzle

1/8/20 9:23am

RE: Jay Drew on 1280. Quote..."BYU fans should lower their expectations..."

Huge Manatee

1/8/20 9:24am

One that sees the program for what it is.

Texas Hammer

1/8/20 9:24am

exactly. keeping it real

run26

1/8/20 11:04am

With Kalani as HC.... he's absolutely right.

yorksama

1/8/20 9:26am

Agreed.

guitarplayingcougar

1/8/20 1:02pm

If fans have to lower expectations then the coach should be gone

CaliWG

1/8/20 9:26am

If we're going to schedule 5-7 P5 teams a year, while still not being in a P5 conference and with larger

Indy Coug

1/8/20 9:36am

But should fans expect to lose most G5 games we play on the road too?

Huge Manatee

1/8/20 9:39am

Probably not the expectations he's suggesting be lowered.

basman

1/8/20 9:56am

I haven't seen many fans upset with many other things

Huge Manatee

1/8/20 9:58am

That's the thing, its not about the P5 games

CaliWG

1/8/20 9:41am

The thing is, it's irrelevant about the non-P5 games because if you play that many P5 games, you're

Indy Coug

1/8/20 9:47am

Ah, the "we were beat up" excuse

Huge Manatee

1/8/20 9:51am

Did you see the Hawaii WRs just blowing by everyone we had on defense?

Indy Coug

1/8/20 9:52am

I saw our running back blowing through their DL and yet we decided to throw the

Huge Manatee

1/8/20 9:54am

So wait, now even the MWC has passed us by athletically?

TheWanderer

1/8/20 9:55am

Ummm.... you act as if we owned the MWC. BYU had only 3 outright championships in the MWC

Indy Coug

1/8/20 10:02am

BYU also played in a different MWC. Outside of BSU, the MWC is worse now.

TheWanderer

1/8/20 10:07am

By the time we hit SDSU and Hawaii, we hadn't played a P5 in 9+ weeks.

TheWanderer

1/8/20 9:53am

Did you fail to notice we were down to the bottom of our RB depth chart? We had to move Allgeier back from LB

Indy Coug

1/8/20 9:56am

yeah, and Allgeier was gashing Hawaii. Why not give him the ball?

TheWanderer

1/8/20 9:58am

"Success" isn't defined by an annual win total in Independence

CaliWG

1/8/20 9:59am

Our schedule as it turns out has not been that tough.

coolblue

1/8/20 10:36am

That's because there are plenty of bad P5 teams

CaliWG

1/8/20 10:43am

Through the USU game this year, BYU's SOS was the 12th toughest nationally

Indy Coug

1/8/20 10:53am

You are using smoke and mirrors to take attention away from the real issue.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/8/20 3:15pm

If BYU can't even expect to beat USF and Toledo.....that's bad.

TheWanderer

1/8/20 9:43am

Yes, but who is going to fire the coach? Our favorite AD who skips out on media

Ash

1/8/20 2:04pm

Someone who has a pretty good grasp of the current reality of the program

Indy Coug

1/8/20 9:27am

From what to what?

Archaea

1/8/20 9:28am

Weren’t we sold on Independence as a chance to constantly play big programs and

Dynasty1

1/8/20 9:29am

RE: Jay Drew on 1280. Quote..."BYU fans should lower their expectations..."

DapperDan

1/8/20 9:31am

yep. should have taken this advice since 2010 when we went independent.

idacoug

1/8/20 9:32am

Well some fans do need to lower their expectations

ReggaeCoug

1/8/20 9:33am

If expectations were much lower, BYU would be a perennial 4-8 team.

TheWanderer

1/8/20 9:35am

As soon as fans do that, the program is a goner because it is that external pressure that forces BYU to be better.

Turnpike Lane

1/8/20 9:35am

I am not arguing this point, but I believe external pressure is less and less relevant to decisions at BYU.....

Bonoman

1/8/20 12:37pm

He's not wrong

RockyBalboa

1/8/20 9:43am

Yes he is. Expectations drove greatness

BYU '80

1/8/20 12:49pm

This has been the motto of the Kalani Era

stansburycoug

1/8/20 9:44am

Replace "the Kalani Era" with "this century" - the Vegas Bowl, and bowls of like import, have been the absolute ceiling

foofcoug

1/8/20 10:00am

My expectations of Jay are already pretty low

deljdc

1/8/20 9:51am

Um, he's right. We should.

Ham

1/8/20 9:55am

My expectations were to win 8 games. Rather than me lowering my expectations,

andrewg3

1/8/20 10:17am

Hes right

Backcountry

1/8/20 10:32am

That is the KS effect.

coolblue

1/8/20 10:40am

He's merely repeating what he's hearing from TH

argus

1/8/20 10:47am

One that is correct...

CoachSpeak

1/8/20 10:51am

- Signed, Tom Holmoe - who extended a sub.500 coach against FBS opponents.

SpiffCoug

1/8/20 11:03am

Huh? Fans of every school, by definition, have unrealistic expectations....it's what we do! SEE: Yewt fans.

Thibious

1/8/20 11:35am

Taysom stays healthy in 2015, we go 13-1, and this is a different conversation.

nc-puma

1/8/20 11:35am

Or undefeated in 2014 for that matter. We were undefeated until Taysom got hurt

gmj81

1/8/20 12:49pm

But USU was winning that game when Taysom went down. I don't agree that injury

Forzaitalia

1/9/20 10:02pm

BYU was having an atypically bad year on defense that year no doubt but taysom

gmj81

1/9/20 10:44pm

So maybe we should turn in the 1984 trophy? A stupid thing to write. But par...

ImuaKahuku

1/8/20 11:44am

We have lowered our expectations. A lot. Is he saying we should lower them even

Gerald-DeGroot

1/8/20 12:31pm

Yes. He actually did say that.

Mathew

1/8/20 12:40pm

to what level? Should we be satisfied with just participating and maybe

Archaea

1/8/20 12:43pm

I believe anywhere from 6 to 7, maybe 8 win seasons. I would have to go back and

Mathew

1/8/20 1:53pm

That's the same disclaimer I read to myself before I read any of JD's articles.

cosmohio

1/8/20 1:28pm

That's the key to happiness

a priori

1/8/20 2:37pm

Signed, Mrs a priori

frontrowcougar

1/8/20 5:17pm

Maybe Jay should lower his expections come pay day.

Count Cougar

1/8/20 3:17pm

Honest question

hereforlaughs

1/8/20 4:50pm

Oh to embrace mediocrity/be happy/just give up

Lombardi

1/8/20 6:54pm

Phenomenal post.

Gerald-DeGroot

1/9/20 1:52am

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Gerald-DeGroot

1/9/20 1:50am

It's true. Truth-tellers are hard to come by.

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