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SpiffCoug
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- Signed, Tom Holmoe - who extended a sub.500 coach against FBS opponents.
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Jay Drew on 1280. Quote..."BYU fans should lower their expectations..." lol...
Mathew
1/8/20 9:22am
*beet rider
foofcoug
1/8/20 9:23am
RE: *beet rider
TheWanderer
1/8/20 9:34am
an honest one.
shimmy
1/8/20 9:23am
Agreed it's a weird thing for a beat writer to say. But...is he wrong?
macdizzle
1/8/20 9:23am
RE: Jay Drew on 1280. Quote..."BYU fans should lower their expectations..."
Huge Manatee
1/8/20 9:24am
One that sees the program for what it is.
Texas Hammer
1/8/20 9:24am
exactly. keeping it real
run26
1/8/20 11:04am
With Kalani as HC.... he's absolutely right.
yorksama
1/8/20 9:26am
Agreed.
guitarplayingcougar
1/8/20 1:02pm
If fans have to lower expectations then the coach should be gone
CaliWG
1/8/20 9:26am
If we're going to schedule 5-7 P5 teams a year, while still not being in a P5 conference and with larger
Indy Coug
1/8/20 9:36am
But should fans expect to lose most G5 games we play on the road too?
Huge Manatee
1/8/20 9:39am
Probably not the expectations he's suggesting be lowered.
basman
1/8/20 9:56am
I haven't seen many fans upset with many other things
Huge Manatee
1/8/20 9:58am
That's the thing, its not about the P5 games
CaliWG
1/8/20 9:41am
The thing is, it's irrelevant about the non-P5 games because if you play that many P5 games, you're
Indy Coug
1/8/20 9:47am
Ah, the "we were beat up" excuse
Huge Manatee
1/8/20 9:51am
Did you see the Hawaii WRs just blowing by everyone we had on defense?
Indy Coug
1/8/20 9:52am
I saw our running back blowing through their DL and yet we decided to throw the
Huge Manatee
1/8/20 9:54am
So wait, now even the MWC has passed us by athletically?
TheWanderer
1/8/20 9:55am
Ummm.... you act as if we owned the MWC. BYU had only 3 outright championships in the MWC
Indy Coug
1/8/20 10:02am
BYU also played in a different MWC. Outside of BSU, the MWC is worse now.
TheWanderer
1/8/20 10:07am
By the time we hit SDSU and Hawaii, we hadn't played a P5 in 9+ weeks.
TheWanderer
1/8/20 9:53am
Did you fail to notice we were down to the bottom of our RB depth chart? We had to move Allgeier back from LB
Indy Coug
1/8/20 9:56am
yeah, and Allgeier was gashing Hawaii. Why not give him the ball?
TheWanderer
1/8/20 9:58am
"Success" isn't defined by an annual win total in Independence
CaliWG
1/8/20 9:59am
Our schedule as it turns out has not been that tough.
coolblue
1/8/20 10:36am
That's because there are plenty of bad P5 teams
CaliWG
1/8/20 10:43am
Through the USU game this year, BYU's SOS was the 12th toughest nationally
Indy Coug
1/8/20 10:53am
You are using smoke and mirrors to take attention away from the real issue.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/8/20 3:15pm
If BYU can't even expect to beat USF and Toledo.....that's bad.
TheWanderer
1/8/20 9:43am
Yes, but who is going to fire the coach? Our favorite AD who skips out on media
Ash
1/8/20 2:04pm
Someone who has a pretty good grasp of the current reality of the program
Indy Coug
1/8/20 9:27am
From what to what?
Archaea
1/8/20 9:28am
Weren’t we sold on Independence as a chance to constantly play big programs and
Dynasty1
1/8/20 9:29am
RE: Jay Drew on 1280. Quote..."BYU fans should lower their expectations..."
DapperDan
1/8/20 9:31am
yep. should have taken this advice since 2010 when we went independent.
idacoug
1/8/20 9:32am
Well some fans do need to lower their expectations
ReggaeCoug
1/8/20 9:33am
If expectations were much lower, BYU would be a perennial 4-8 team.
TheWanderer
1/8/20 9:35am
As soon as fans do that, the program is a goner because it is that external pressure that forces BYU to be better.
Turnpike Lane
1/8/20 9:35am
I am not arguing this point, but I believe external pressure is less and less relevant to decisions at BYU.....
Bonoman
1/8/20 12:37pm
He's not wrong
RockyBalboa
1/8/20 9:43am
Yes he is. Expectations drove greatness
BYU '80
1/8/20 12:49pm
This has been the motto of the Kalani Era
stansburycoug
1/8/20 9:44am
Replace "the Kalani Era" with "this century" - the Vegas Bowl, and bowls of like import, have been the absolute ceiling
foofcoug
1/8/20 10:00am
My expectations of Jay are already pretty low
deljdc
1/8/20 9:51am
Um, he's right. We should.
Ham
1/8/20 9:55am
My expectations were to win 8 games. Rather than me lowering my expectations,
andrewg3
1/8/20 10:17am
Hes right
Backcountry
1/8/20 10:32am
That is the KS effect.
coolblue
1/8/20 10:40am
He's merely repeating what he's hearing from TH
argus
1/8/20 10:47am
One that is correct...
CoachSpeak
1/8/20 10:51am
- Signed, Tom Holmoe - who extended a sub.500 coach against FBS opponents.
SpiffCoug
1/8/20 11:03am
Huh? Fans of every school, by definition, have unrealistic expectations....it's what we do! SEE: Yewt fans.
Thibious
1/8/20 11:35am
Taysom stays healthy in 2015, we go 13-1, and this is a different conversation.
nc-puma
1/8/20 11:35am
Or undefeated in 2014 for that matter. We were undefeated until Taysom got hurt
gmj81
1/8/20 12:49pm
But USU was winning that game when Taysom went down. I don't agree that injury
Forzaitalia
1/9/20 10:02pm
BYU was having an atypically bad year on defense that year no doubt but taysom
gmj81
1/9/20 10:44pm
So maybe we should turn in the 1984 trophy? A stupid thing to write. But par...
ImuaKahuku
1/8/20 11:44am
We have lowered our expectations. A lot. Is he saying we should lower them even
Gerald-DeGroot
1/8/20 12:31pm
Yes. He actually did say that.
Mathew
1/8/20 12:40pm
to what level? Should we be satisfied with just participating and maybe
Archaea
1/8/20 12:43pm
I believe anywhere from 6 to 7, maybe 8 win seasons. I would have to go back and
Mathew
1/8/20 1:53pm
That's the same disclaimer I read to myself before I read any of JD's articles.
cosmohio
1/8/20 1:28pm
That's the key to happiness
a priori
1/8/20 2:37pm
Signed, Mrs a priori
frontrowcougar
1/8/20 5:17pm
Maybe Jay should lower his expections come pay day.
Count Cougar
1/8/20 3:17pm
Honest question
hereforlaughs
1/8/20 4:50pm
Oh to embrace mediocrity/be happy/just give up
Lombardi
1/8/20 6:54pm
Phenomenal post.
Gerald-DeGroot
1/9/20 1:52am
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Gerald-DeGroot
1/9/20 1:50am
It's true. Truth-tellers are hard to come by.
Ham
1/9/20 9:36am
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