I agree that Hall (when healthy) looked to be the best overall. Romney makes smart decisions to manage

Jan 8, 2020
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Soupie Grandma Sycamore

the game and move the sticks. Wilson has great physical skills and potential but is often too risky and tries to carry too much of the load himself. His mistakes are very costly.

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Who is going to start at QB next year? How close will the competition be?

buckeyecougarguy

1/8/20 12:25pm

Wilson. Not really that close.

reagan21

1/8/20 12:27pm

Wilson's decision making in crucial moments of a game is something I am having a hard time getting over.

TheLoneCougar

1/8/20 12:29pm

I’m in the same boat.

PessimisticCB

1/8/20 12:29pm

He can be a drive killer.

Turn and Cough

1/8/20 12:30pm

Not just a drive killer, but a game killer. His turnovers and mistakes led to at least three losses last season.

SpiffCoug

1/8/20 10:33pm

To add salt to the wound

Blue2thebone

1/9/20 1:39pm

I hear he grew up a Ute fan

SpiffCoug

1/9/20 2:42pm

did not improve from year 1 to 2 which is the biggest concern

BigYfan

1/8/20 12:38pm

He wasn’t healthy so it’s hard to say what will happen

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:39pm

He was healthy last year at BSU, this year at Toledo, SDSU, and Hawaii.

TheLoneCougar

1/8/20 12:51pm

Relatively. Think his thumb was still bothering him some at end but that wasn't the issue in those games.

Soupie

1/8/20 12:53pm

He never had lots of reps. BSU was third statt

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 1:01pm

Third start or not, that was the beginning of showing signs of bad decision making and it extended into this year.

TheLoneCougar

1/8/20 1:03pm

I don’t disagree

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 1:11pm

Well to be sure we should give him 2 more years. I'm sure there will be good...

icecougar

1/8/20 7:36pm

His thumb shouldn't impact his decision-making.

Dangerous

1/8/20 12:58pm

Reps

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 1:00pm

He had no offseason work; it shouldn’t have been a susprise

Coop

1/8/20 12:49pm

Either way regression was a surprise

kimdaddy35

1/8/20 12:53pm

he got worse

icecougar

1/8/20 2:23pm

Lol

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 3:31pm

RE: Lol

icecougar

1/8/20 7:21pm

You said they killed it

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 8:09pm

killed it doesn't mean insane. killed it means they did well...

icecougar

1/8/20 8:35pm

RE: Lol

Fakalata

1/8/20 8:30pm

This year the list of excuses why he didn't improve were pretty long...

icecougar

1/8/20 7:30pm

He didn’t get hardly any reps from Potato Bowl to Utah

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:38pm

I certainly hope so! But decision making isn't necessarily about reps.

TheLoneCougar

1/8/20 12:52pm

It’s all about reps. Obviously you can still make bad decisions with reps

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:57pm

Romney had many fewer reps than Wilson and his decision making was better

The Chelsea Dagger

1/8/20 4:08pm

Wrong

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 6:49pm

wrong about what? that he had fewer reps than ZW or that he had better decision

icecougar

1/8/20 7:25pm

Reps

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 8:10pm

Jaren Hall, I hope. It will be an interesting spring and fall camp, that's4sho

AntiSNOT

1/8/20 7:07pm

I just don't see them going away from Wilson unless he is falling apart...

PJMort

1/8/20 12:31pm

I count critical turnovers at the goal line and pick-6's that lose games for us

Dangerous

1/8/20 12:32pm

I would agree with that... but game 1 will be Wilson.

PJMort

1/8/20 12:51pm

I wouldn't be surprised to see Hal transfer unless he realizes there is 0 chance

reagan21

1/8/20 12:35pm

I would be less surprised if Hall gave up football after 2 concussions in 2

crack

1/8/20 12:44pm

RE: I wouldn't be surprised to see Hal transfer unless he realizes there is 0

Shihan

1/8/20 2:20pm

My biggest question is his throwing accuracy and strength

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:36pm

So much of that is reflected in the decision making and failing to use the rest of the team's assets.

Soupie

1/8/20 12:43pm

He needs to get comfortable throwing. Start from the bottom and rework.

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:47pm

I liked Hall the best out of the bunch!

jpal1397

1/8/20 12:55pm

He looked good but still pretty raw

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:59pm

No way! Wilson runs like a QB but Hall runs like a RB. Big difference to me.

jpal1397

1/8/20 8:13pm

Wilson doesn’t shy away from hits

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 8:18pm

How many times has he tried to leap over people? Against Hawaii it cost us a TD.

Soupie

1/8/20 8:31pm

I don’t mind when the QB sticks the ball over the shoulders of a guy standing on

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 9:01pm

That's not what he did and you know it.

Soupie

1/8/20 9:09pm

Pretty close actually

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 9:17pm

and that's part of the problem...

icecougar

1/9/20 11:39am

Was that the qb from Baylor, who went out with another concussion in the game?

PJMort

1/8/20 1:00pm

I would say it's close. Wilson was a bottom third NCAA QB this year.

Dangerous

1/8/20 12:31pm

Yeah it’s that clear cut. Cuz he’s been so lights out and all...

Gerald-DeGroot

1/8/20 1:05pm

...because coaches are blinded by his "Mormon Manziel" hype...

icecougar

1/8/20 2:18pm

He will get coached up by our elite coaching staff. He’ll be fine.

Gerald-DeGroot

1/8/20 6:17pm

Romney. Close

BlueFrog

1/8/20 12:30pm

I could see Romney taking over at some point. I think Wilson starts game 1.

PJMort

1/8/20 12:32pm

i also think Romney will improve a bunch

BlueFrog

1/8/20 12:33pm

Wilson will probably throw a bunch of INT's against Utah and then they'll

Dangerous

1/8/20 12:34pm

doubt it. Wilson is QB1 for life

icecougar

1/8/20 7:39pm

Program is all in with Wilson..

cougfanz

1/8/20 12:31pm

Why are they all in? He is .500 against G5 teams and has made some

Dangerous

1/8/20 12:35pm

I agree. I personally would have made the swap.

cougfanz

1/8/20 12:42pm

RE: Why are they all in? He is .500 against G5 teams and has made some

Fakalata

1/8/20 6:30pm

I feel implosion was what we saw against SDSU & Hawaii already.

Soupie

1/8/20 12:36pm

Agree, for better or for worse. This staff seems to be unwilling to make changes

fredgarvin

1/8/20 12:39pm

There's no reason to be. He has tools but he has yet to put it all together.

Ash

1/8/20 1:54pm

they let Tanner start half way through his senior year when it was obvious...

icecougar

1/8/20 8:01pm

I'm not worried as much with who starts as I am with them having an actual

kimdaddy35

1/8/20 12:42pm

Romney was the best QB this year and it wasn't that close.

blackshirts

1/8/20 12:44pm

LOL

shakarocks

1/8/20 12:45pm

Let me now LOL at those of you who gave me thumbs down

shakarocks

1/8/20 9:06pm

you're right, he and Hall were pretty close

icecougar

1/10/20 6:59pm

I honestly think it might of been Hall. We just didn't get to see him healthy.

mudpupper

1/8/20 12:48pm

I agree that Hall (when healthy) looked to be the best overall. Romney makes smart decisions to manage

Soupie

1/8/20 12:51pm

we don't need a hero, just a guy to execute plays and move the sticks...

icecougar

1/8/20 7:42pm

RE: we don't need a hero, just a guy to execute plays and move the sticks...

Fakalata

1/8/20 8:34pm

that's what makes a message board great. If everyone agreed with everyone it...

icecougar

1/8/20 8:40pm

I actually think Hall has a better arm than Wilson

kimdaddy35

1/8/20 12:52pm

Wilson didn’t have all the tools this year

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:52pm

didn't have it upstairs either

icecougar

1/8/20 7:56pm

That’s true but he showed improvement mid season

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 8:11pm

it's my hope that he does improve...

icecougar

1/8/20 8:45pm

Backups were injured though too

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 9:03pm

Romney had a sore foot in the Liberty game but played through it...

icecougar

1/9/20 12:00pm

Hall has a better arm than Wilson. Watch the USU game and tell me you don't

Dangerous

1/8/20 1:07pm

RE: Romney was the best QB this year and it wasn't that close.

Fakalata

1/8/20 6:32pm

Funny, is Romney's worse game was better than ZW best game.

blackshirts

1/8/20 8:22pm

Ratings don’t tell the whole story

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 9:04pm

I don't have any actual knowledge, but it seems like Wilson was still not 100%

crack

1/8/20 12:47pm

He may have been 100% healthy at one time

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 12:50pm

Here’s my take. It’s not worth much, but it’s what I believe

gww687

1/8/20 1:24pm

Can he? People say this but I'm beginning to think it's a myth born at the potato bowl."He can make every throw."

Soupie

1/8/20 1:34pm

RE: Can he? People say this but I'm beginning to think it's a myth born at the

gww687

1/8/20 1:36pm

Again. I'm talking about decision making not the act of throwing it. That's only part of being QB.

Soupie

1/8/20 1:39pm

“Make every throw” refers to throwing ability and not decisions

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 3:38pm

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Soupie

1/8/20 3:48pm

You're only wrong about one thing

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 4:18pm

So theoretically.

Soupie

1/8/20 4:25pm

Yes, it means "does your QB have the physical capabilities to make a throw

puntersarepeople

1/8/20 4:38pm

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Soupie

1/8/20 6:12pm

He isn't making every throw. And more important than that is he's making the

Ash

1/8/20 1:57pm

"But BYU really needs a playmaker at QB"

icecougar

1/8/20 8:25pm

Many BYU fans have become enamored with running QB's because it was bronco's

Ash

1/8/20 10:30pm

I think that's been a common misconception. It's like fools gold..

icecougar

1/9/20 11:54am

Taysom and C Stew comparison wasn’t very accurate

puntersarepeople

1/9/20 2:56pm

RE: Taysom and C Stew comparison wasn’t very accurate

icecougar

1/9/20 7:34pm

"He can make every throw"...except on 3rd and 2 in the flat with the game on...

icecougar

1/9/20 2:38pm

Hopefully it's truly an open competition. With Wilson not throwing until a

Super Chicken

1/8/20 1:39pm

Wilson is way more confident

Vegasjohn

1/8/20 8:32pm

Should be Romney, but probably won't.

lightmann

1/8/20 1:50pm

RE: Should be Romney, but probably won't.

Fakalata

1/8/20 6:34pm

It should be who looks like the right QB for the team

gww687

1/8/20 7:36pm

If wins is what is right for the team, . . . that would be Romney.

lightmann

1/9/20 2:41pm

How about the one with the best winning percentage? (Romney)

Cougar Junkie

1/8/20 3:24pm

Jaren Hall, I hope. It will be an interesting spring and fall camp, that's4sho

AntiSNOT

1/8/20 7:09pm

Wilson and the staff won’t seriously consider anyone else.

wilsdad

1/8/20 9:51pm

RE: Wilson and the staff won’t seriously consider anyone else.

Vegasjohn

1/8/20 11:35pm

What could be worse than having a disappointing starting QB who also is a huge

Blue2thebone

1/8/20 11:38pm

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