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Jan 23, 2020
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Didn't the Big East technically get downgraded resulting in P5?
It is still curious to me why no one has yet to file an anti-trust lawsuit against the P-5 and NCAA.
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Fact #1: No matter what mental gymnastics you can come up with, a conference
BlueVU
1/23/20 11:08am
Fact#3: AAC would put us in the running for a New Years 6 bowl every year.
zerigke
1/23/20 11:10am
If BYU was ranked higher at the end of the season than any other G5, would we
hxmCougar2000
1/23/20 11:11am
Yes
RockyTopCougar
1/23/20 11:13am
Uh yes. There is no question. This board doesnt understand how Ny6 works.
Klompus
1/23/20 1:03pm
Highest-ranked G5 champ is guaranteed a NY6 spot. BYU only eligible for at-large
cougarmeister
1/23/20 3:22pm
they have to be the champ of a G5?
hxmCougar2000
1/27/20 10:18am
Fact#4: That would be the absolute ceiling
Sea Chicken
1/23/20 11:12am
As it is for 90% of programs, including Utah.
RockyTopCougar
1/23/20 11:13am
Utah literally came within one game of being in the playoff.
LittleTex
1/23/20 1:51pm
That’s debatable. I think Oklahoma jumps them.
bluecougar1985
1/23/20 3:26pm
Uh, OU would’ve jumped them. No doubt.
RockyTopCougar
1/24/20 11:20am
When was the last time you watched BYU football? 80s? I have bad news for you...
Klompus
1/23/20 1:03pm
Which is a higher ceiling than we currently have!
TheLoneCougar
1/23/20 3:20pm
Another fact - BYU doesn’t currently have NY6 access.
RockyTopCougar
1/23/20 11:12am
How often would we be good enough to be the NY6 participant?
che flaco
1/23/20 11:14am
Just think the AAC would kick the P6 campaign into overdrive with BSU/BYU/AF.
RockyTopCougar
1/23/20 11:16am
What would have to happen for a new power conference to be approved?
zerigke
1/23/20 11:18am
Good question.
RockyTopCougar
1/23/20 11:19am
Easy answer
LiveCoug
1/23/20 11:25am
Ha
RockyTopCougar
1/23/20 11:30am
There is no approval process.
Everyman
1/23/20 11:52am
So if 64 schools voiced opposition the other 1100 would follow?
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 12:31pm
The P5 control CFP and split approximately 80% of the net revenue
Everyman
1/23/20 1:30pm
So allowing another conference to be autonomous
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 3:45pm
Edit. I erroneously inserted the number of NCAA members.
Everyman
1/23/20 1:32pm
Which would mean absolutely nothing to the P5 conferences.
che flaco
1/23/20 11:20am
Aren't we G5 now? Just because some conferences made a rule we are P5
ReggaeCoug
1/23/20 11:39am
Not until the program improves quite a bit.
mudpupper
1/23/20 11:14am
it's happened one time in the last 30 years. once.
Tangotongo
1/23/20 12:15pm
I am tired of hearing this about a team that lost to Toledo, South Florida, SDSU
pappabear246
1/23/20 7:07pm
This 1000 times.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 7:17pm
Part of it is there is nothing to play for with Independence
zerigke
1/23/20 8:27pm
I disagree. I believe if we had only lost one game this year we would have
pappabear246
1/23/20 8:50pm
I agree that 5 losses would equal the same bowl.
zerigke
1/23/20 9:04pm
I guess I am saying lets field a team that can only lose 2 or 3 games
pappabear246
1/24/20 6:47am
Fact #2 - BYU isn’t getting that P5 status anytime soon....
RockyTopCougar
1/23/20 11:11am
Fact #5 - modern sweet corn is the product of nuclear weapons testing in the late 1940s
cheezedawg
1/23/20 11:14am
I REALLY hope this is true!
LeftOfNormal
1/23/20 11:19am
I am pleased to report that it is true.
cheezedawg
1/23/20 12:18pm
Didn't the Big East technically get downgraded resulting in P5?
P-Boy Squad
1/23/20 11:12am
Only after all of its marquee programs left.
mannheimadler
1/23/20 11:16am
I believe you have to lose half your membership. Technically.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 12:35pm
RE: Fact #1: No matter what mental gymnastics you can come up with, a conference
AD4
1/23/20 11:13am
I don't think the Big 12 will exist indefinitely. It could but I just don't
rcbyufan
1/23/20 11:14am
It's a possibility.
Everyman
1/23/20 11:22am
P5 is just a construct that was invented. It's not some eternal principle.
keylimesoda
1/23/20 11:18am
- Signed the Big East
WhyaskY?
1/23/20 11:26am
RE: - Signed the Big East
mannheimadler
1/23/20 11:27am
Big East doesn’t compete in football soooooo...
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 12:34pm
Fact #3: BYU will never be invited to join a P5 conference.
Ham
1/23/20 11:36am
That is not a fact; it’s a fear
2FarGone
1/23/20 11:39am
Sometimes fears are reality.
ReggaeCoug
1/23/20 11:41am
But most times they're irrational myths
2FarGone
1/23/20 12:04pm
You think it's an "irrational myth" that we won't be invited to P5?
ReggaeCoug
1/23/20 1:38pm
Yes, we didn't get in 2016 because no non-P5 team moved the financial needle . . . other than BYU
2FarGone
1/23/20 1:57pm
Not facts. Three counter examples: Southwest conference, Big East and Ivy League
TomPetty
1/23/20 11:55am
None of aforementioned conferences were ever called P5
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 12:46pm
Fact 2 is about conferences not teams
TomPetty
1/23/20 1:00pm
Correct. Ceasing to exist was not included in his fact. Probably implied.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 1:09pm
The Big East is the most interesting case for the following reasons
TomPetty
1/23/20 1:29pm
Fact 2 is about conferences not teams.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/23/20 4:39pm
Link to the story please?
643
1/24/20 9:07am
You mean the story of when they went undefeated for two straight seasons and
StalwartBraveTrue
1/24/20 3:33pm
RE: You mean the story of when they went undefeated for two straight seasons and
643
1/24/20 4:53pm
ESPN 150: Bowls, polls, and champions.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/25/20 10:35am
Fact #3: A P5 conference will never admit us as a member b/c of gender beliefs
El Paso Coug
1/23/20 11:59am
Sadly, I believe this to be 100% true.
zerigke
1/23/20 12:04pm
...among other things.
Ham
1/23/20 12:06pm
Again, see my post above about "fears" and "irrational myths"
2FarGone
1/23/20 12:20pm
Use any excuse you want for 2016, but in 2020, no way will a P5 conference
Traveshamockery
1/23/20 1:53pm
Boardname checks out 😉
643
1/23/20 1:56pm
Depends on other factors
Traveling Coug
1/23/20 12:34pm
Yep, and no Conference as a whole will go from G5 to P5. I think there will be
ImuaKahuku
1/23/20 2:10pm
Break from the NCAA? What would that look like?
zerigke
1/23/20 2:16pm
It would be like the NAIA except it would be at least 64 of the P5s, basically
ImuaKahuku
1/24/20 5:51am
The power conferences have autonomy.
Everyman
1/23/20 2:23pm
It has come close already. Pay to players etc almost cost the NCAA those
ImuaKahuku
1/24/20 6:06am
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