You think it's an "irrational myth" that we won't be invited to P5?

Jan 23, 2020
1:38:32pm

ReggaeCoug All-American

We've been passed over and denied twice now. Even when the numbers are pretty clear we fit and would carry our own weight and potentially add to a P5. What else can BYU do?

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Fact #1: No matter what mental gymnastics you can come up with, a conference

BlueVU

1/23/20 11:08am

Fact#3: AAC would put us in the running for a New Years 6 bowl every year.

zerigke

1/23/20 11:10am

If BYU was ranked higher at the end of the season than any other G5, would we

hxmCougar2000

1/23/20 11:11am

Yes

RockyTopCougar

1/23/20 11:13am

Uh yes. There is no question. This board doesnt understand how Ny6 works.

Klompus

1/23/20 1:03pm

Highest-ranked G5 champ is guaranteed a NY6 spot. BYU only eligible for at-large

cougarmeister

1/23/20 3:22pm

they have to be the champ of a G5?

hxmCougar2000

1/27/20 10:18am

Fact#4: That would be the absolute ceiling

Sea Chicken

1/23/20 11:12am

As it is for 90% of programs, including Utah.

RockyTopCougar

1/23/20 11:13am

Utah literally came within one game of being in the playoff.

LittleTex

1/23/20 1:51pm

That’s debatable. I think Oklahoma jumps them.

bluecougar1985

1/23/20 3:26pm

Uh, OU would’ve jumped them. No doubt.

RockyTopCougar

1/24/20 11:20am

When was the last time you watched BYU football? 80s? I have bad news for you...

Klompus

1/23/20 1:03pm

Which is a higher ceiling than we currently have!

TheLoneCougar

1/23/20 3:20pm

Another fact - BYU doesn’t currently have NY6 access.

RockyTopCougar

1/23/20 11:12am

How often would we be good enough to be the NY6 participant?

che flaco

1/23/20 11:14am

Just think the AAC would kick the P6 campaign into overdrive with BSU/BYU/AF.

RockyTopCougar

1/23/20 11:16am

What would have to happen for a new power conference to be approved?

zerigke

1/23/20 11:18am

Good question.

RockyTopCougar

1/23/20 11:19am

Easy answer

LiveCoug

1/23/20 11:25am

RockyTopCougar

1/23/20 11:30am

There is no approval process.

Everyman

1/23/20 11:52am

So if 64 schools voiced opposition the other 1100 would follow?

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 12:31pm

The P5 control CFP and split approximately 80% of the net revenue

Everyman

1/23/20 1:30pm

So allowing another conference to be autonomous

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 3:45pm

Edit. I erroneously inserted the number of NCAA members.

Everyman

1/23/20 1:32pm

Which would mean absolutely nothing to the P5 conferences.

che flaco

1/23/20 11:20am

Aren't we G5 now? Just because some conferences made a rule we are P5

ReggaeCoug

1/23/20 11:39am

Not until the program improves quite a bit.

mudpupper

1/23/20 11:14am

it's happened one time in the last 30 years. once.

Tangotongo

1/23/20 12:15pm

I am tired of hearing this about a team that lost to Toledo, South Florida, SDSU

pappabear246

1/23/20 7:07pm

This 1000 times.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 7:17pm

Part of it is there is nothing to play for with Independence

zerigke

1/23/20 8:27pm

I disagree. I believe if we had only lost one game this year we would have

pappabear246

1/23/20 8:50pm

I agree that 5 losses would equal the same bowl.

zerigke

1/23/20 9:04pm

I guess I am saying lets field a team that can only lose 2 or 3 games

pappabear246

1/24/20 6:47am

Fact #2 - BYU isn’t getting that P5 status anytime soon....

RockyTopCougar

1/23/20 11:11am

Fact #5 - modern sweet corn is the product of nuclear weapons testing in the late 1940s

cheezedawg

1/23/20 11:14am

I REALLY hope this is true!

LeftOfNormal

1/23/20 11:19am

I am pleased to report that it is true.

cheezedawg

1/23/20 12:18pm

Didn't the Big East technically get downgraded resulting in P5?

P-Boy Squad

1/23/20 11:12am

Only after all of its marquee programs left.

mannheimadler

1/23/20 11:16am

I believe you have to lose half your membership. Technically.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 12:35pm

RE: Fact #1: No matter what mental gymnastics you can come up with, a conference

AD4

1/23/20 11:13am

I don't think the Big 12 will exist indefinitely. It could but I just don't

rcbyufan

1/23/20 11:14am

It's a possibility.

Everyman

1/23/20 11:22am

P5 is just a construct that was invented. It's not some eternal principle.

keylimesoda

1/23/20 11:18am

- Signed the Big East

WhyaskY?

1/23/20 11:26am

RE: - Signed the Big East

mannheimadler

1/23/20 11:27am

Big East doesn’t compete in football soooooo...

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 12:34pm

Fact #3: BYU will never be invited to join a P5 conference.

Ham

1/23/20 11:36am

That is not a fact; it’s a fear

2FarGone

1/23/20 11:39am

Sometimes fears are reality.

ReggaeCoug

1/23/20 11:41am

But most times they're irrational myths

2FarGone

1/23/20 12:04pm

You think it's an "irrational myth" that we won't be invited to P5?

ReggaeCoug

1/23/20 1:38pm

Yes, we didn't get in 2016 because no non-P5 team moved the financial needle . . . other than BYU

2FarGone

1/23/20 1:57pm

Not facts. Three counter examples: Southwest conference, Big East and Ivy League

TomPetty

1/23/20 11:55am

None of aforementioned conferences were ever called P5

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 12:46pm

Fact 2 is about conferences not teams

TomPetty

1/23/20 1:00pm

Correct. Ceasing to exist was not included in his fact. Probably implied.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 1:09pm

The Big East is the most interesting case for the following reasons

TomPetty

1/23/20 1:29pm

Fact 2 is about conferences not teams.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/23/20 4:39pm

Link to the story please?

643

1/24/20 9:07am

You mean the story of when they went undefeated for two straight seasons and

StalwartBraveTrue

1/24/20 3:33pm

RE: You mean the story of when they went undefeated for two straight seasons and

643

1/24/20 4:53pm

ESPN 150: Bowls, polls, and champions.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/25/20 10:35am

Fact #3: A P5 conference will never admit us as a member b/c of gender beliefs

El Paso Coug

1/23/20 11:59am

Sadly, I believe this to be 100% true.

zerigke

1/23/20 12:04pm

...among other things.

Ham

1/23/20 12:06pm

Again, see my post above about "fears" and "irrational myths"

2FarGone

1/23/20 12:20pm

Use any excuse you want for 2016, but in 2020, no way will a P5 conference

Traveshamockery

1/23/20 1:53pm

Boardname checks out 😉

643

1/23/20 1:56pm

Depends on other factors

Traveling Coug

1/23/20 12:34pm

Yep, and no Conference as a whole will go from G5 to P5. I think there will be

ImuaKahuku

1/23/20 2:10pm

Break from the NCAA? What would that look like?

zerigke

1/23/20 2:16pm

It would be like the NAIA except it would be at least 64 of the P5s, basically

ImuaKahuku

1/24/20 5:51am

The power conferences have autonomy.

Everyman

1/23/20 2:23pm

It has come close already. Pay to players etc almost cost the NCAA those

ImuaKahuku

1/24/20 6:06am

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