And I should have say BYU lands *some of the best LDS talent, enough to be good, but not enough to consistently be among

Jan 27, 2020
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The key to BYU's football program lies in the question of whether we can land

rcbyufan

1/27/20 1:21pm

The key is to attract non-LDS talent.

TheLost

1/27/20 1:24pm

RE: The key is to attract non-LDS talent.

RdF3

1/27/20 1:27pm

I'm not sure what BYU has to offer non-LDS talent other than

rcbyufan

1/27/20 1:33pm

Not everybody wants what BYU offers..

TheLost

1/27/20 1:56pm

Oh. I see. You are on a different tangent

rcbyufan

1/27/20 1:59pm

Its not a tangent..

TheLost

1/27/20 2:21pm

Wait, since Sitake is poly,he's supposed to get all the good LDS poly recruits?

Borg

1/27/20 1:25pm

Good Point! I honestly think it's time to refocus our effort away from the

Northern Blue

1/27/20 4:09pm

Some simply don't want to come, i.e., don't want to live the honor code,

basman

1/27/20 1:25pm

Wait? LDS talent who doesn’t want to live the HC?

Pretorian

1/28/20 4:17am

Getting that talent while Utah is doing well will continue to be difficult

mudpupper

1/27/20 1:29pm

There are 49 other states that don't care about the UofU.

TheLost

1/27/20 1:33pm

The problem for BYU is that your recruiting pool is much smaller than most.

displacedute

1/27/20 5:02pm

P5 status would be the real game changer but....

fulano

1/27/20 1:33pm

That is true but a very good season could easily snowball into getting

Pretorian

1/28/20 4:21am

BYU has never landed the top LDS talent. Even in the good years.

lightmann

1/27/20 1:33pm

Which is why it really comes down to coaching.

1CougFan

1/27/20 2:22pm

And I should have say BYU lands *some of the best LDS talent, enough to be good, but not enough to consistently be among

lightmann

1/27/20 2:58pm

Who was the best LDS talent to get away from BYU in the late 70s-mid 80s?

The Chelsea Dagger

1/27/20 3:33pm

Joe Germaine and Darrell Bevell in the 90s took Big 10 teams to Rose Bowls

Y05

1/28/20 4:02pm

You seriously think that in Lavell's best years we did not consistently get.....

BleedCougarBlue2

1/28/20 1:14am

Seriously, yes. In those days a lot of top LDS players went to PAC-10 and other schools.

lightmann

1/28/20 9:18am

So who, for example, did BYU lose in the LaVell glory years? I'm just looking

The Chelsea Dagger

1/28/20 11:54am

It doesn't matter... LaVell was 20 years ago.

TheLost

1/28/20 12:02pm

I thought the whole point of these boards is to discuss things that don't matter

The Chelsea Dagger

1/28/20 12:09pm

Pretorian

1/28/20 4:22am

A. We aren’t P5. B. We have her rarely landed top rated LDS talent.

LyleLanley

1/27/20 1:39pm

C. When we have, they've been busts or at least extremely overrated coming out of high school

foofcoug

1/27/20 1:42pm

Yes, this too.

LyleLanley

1/27/20 1:56pm

So, are you going to Jacob Conover he’s a bust or should l.

Rigormortise

1/28/20 2:09pm

Was KVN a bust, Fred Warner, Chaz is look’n good... what about Taysom?

Pretorian

1/29/20 5:59am

They were not five star recruits like the ones being referred to here

BYU Grounds

1/29/20 8:23am

Maybe they don't want to be guilted in to going on a mission.

BRATS

1/27/20 2:03pm

I would imagine there's quite a few reasons. Some in BYU's control and others

rcbyufan

1/27/20 2:08pm

Do they still do this?

TNT

1/27/20 2:13pm

No, they don't.

TheLost

1/27/20 2:22pm

The team and coaches don’t. I’m sure they feel it from

LyleLanley

1/27/20 3:04pm

If i'm a top recruit, LDS or not, and I have the ability to go start/play at Clemson or Alabama, I'd be foolish not to

indocoug

1/27/20 2:21pm

I agree with thi

puntersarepeople

1/27/20 2:33pm

I totally disagree for the LDS guys

Pretorian

1/28/20 4:26am

There is something about true competitors, and their wanting to know that they can hang with the very best. If you get

indocoug

1/28/20 7:52am

I completely disagree that they can have a bigger impact as a missionary on

Pretorian

1/29/20 6:07am

Nailed it! Players don’t have to go to a p5 school to

1CougFan

1/28/20 7:59am

Agreed with much of what you said until the end. BYU is nowhere near "there"

TrueBlue67

1/29/20 6:52am

sadly, the evidence is in your favor but as long as he’s our coach and 2017

Pretorian

1/29/20 8:05am

Ability to play and getting playing time are two different things. I'd go to BYU

Benfica1

1/29/20 8:19am

We need to find a couple special players to build around

donnerstag

1/27/20 2:33pm

Pitta, Collie, Hall, Unga for instance

puntersarepeople

1/27/20 4:07pm

We just need a contract with the Fiesta Bowl and all home games on ABC

Doogal McCougar

1/27/20 3:09pm

We need P5 staus. Bottom line. Recruiting is futile without it.

Backcountry

1/27/20 3:53pm

I still think this will produce a mild uptick in recruiting.

Traveshamockery

1/27/20 4:43pm

BYU will never get top talent so long as KS is the HC and BYU continues to get

TrueBlue67

1/27/20 4:51pm

Sad to say it but I think you're right.

BleedCougarBlue2

1/28/20 1:17am

I had a friend who was a local sports writer. I asked him why BYU missed on so

Bullrider

1/29/20 9:44am

Some people assume that the big guys are worthy just because they are members

puntersarepeople

1/29/20 2:53pm

I think we will always land some of the top LDS talent. It woul

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