What BYU was has little to do with what they currently are...

Feb 19, 2020
12:24:39pm

CoachSpeak All-American

I grew up in the golden age of BYU football, the 70's and 80's, it's never been better than those times. But BYU is currently not anything close to what they used to be.

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POLL: True or False: Kalani Sitake never finishes a season ranked as BYU's HC

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 11:52am

As long as we're playing 6-7 P5 teams a year? True.

Indy Coug

2/19/20 11:53am

Last 3 years we are 11-12 vs. G5 teams.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:07pm

Irrelevant. The P5 schedule alone will do us in.

Indy Coug

2/19/20 12:09pm

We finished ranked multiple times with similar schedule strength not long ago.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:18pm

If we were in the MWC right now we still wouldn't be close to finishing ranked

CaliWG

2/19/20 12:12pm

Kalani is <.500 against G5 teams with some truly unforgivable losses

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 12:21pm

Sadly, under the present conditions I don't think there is a coach

BYU71

2/19/20 11:54am

We could have last year if we had a coach that could beat bad G5 teams

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 11:55am

True, we could also be national champs if we had a coach that went 12-0.

BYU71

2/19/20 11:56am

Are SDSU and Hawaii bad G5 teams?

Indy Coug

2/19/20 11:56am

Toledo, USF, Hawaii all should have been teams BYU beat comfortably

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 11:59am

Hawaii beat SDSU...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:06pm

BYU set the expectations of the season after beating Tennessee and USC

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 12:12pm

I think ultimately teams are what they are...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:22pm

BYU has very rarely beaten 8 win P5 teams. They beat 2 last season, and that

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 12:24pm

SDSU finished 51, Hawaii 68. After being a top 40 team on avg for decades BYU

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:17pm

What BYU was has little to do with what they currently are...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:24pm

We averaged a 33 finish from 05-15. This isn't just a "glory days" thing.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:25pm

It is a "current" thing...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:34pm

Yes after decades of being a solid program--they are now a bottom half FBS team.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:40pm

I don't really have the answer...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:44pm

I also don't understand why expectations should be lowered so quickly

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:54pm

The Kalani defenders sound like Obama on the economy circa 2016

CaliWG

2/19/20 12:58pm

It's not defending Kalani, it's a rational analysis of the national landscape in 2020 and BYU's place in it

Indy Coug

2/19/20 1:14pm

Bring back the Anae "heavy" Air Raid. It fits BYU's talent pool perfectly

CaliWG

2/19/20 1:30pm

The two things BYU can control are 1. Dial back the number of P5 teams back to historical norms (2-3 a year)

Indy Coug

2/19/20 12:54pm

BYU can control hiring a coach with leadership skills

CaliWG

2/19/20 1:01pm

Sos is a horrible measure for determining how difficult the schedule is

BYU '80

2/19/20 1:30pm

We have very little precedent to expect to beat those teams on the road.

Blue Cat

2/19/20 1:06pm

That's the part I take issue with on the claims BYU "should have beaten" those

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 1:33pm

If BYU beat SDSU and Hawaii neither would have won 10 games, which makes winning

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 1:36pm

But they still win 9. BYU is 6-39 on the road vs. 9+ win teams.

Blue Cat

2/19/20 1:40pm

Excellent points. How many 9 win teams did BYU beat last season?

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 7:25pm

BYU didn’t beat them, they lost to them, they were better than BYU.

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 7:26pm

The coach would have to beat good P5 teams + beat all the bad G5 teams

donnerstag

2/19/20 11:58am

Come on, this is just stupid. BYU isn't all doom and gloom. Yes it sucks and

Cougar TD

2/19/20 12:58pm

But they "didn't" fix things last year and so they weren't ranked,

BleedCougarBlue2

2/19/20 5:07pm

RE: But they "didn't" fix things last year and so they weren't ranked,

Cougar TD

2/19/20 7:24pm

RE: POLL: True or False: Kalani Sitake never finishes a season ranked as BYU's

XwhyZ

2/19/20 7:01pm

Fake news

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