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Feb 19, 2020
7:26:09pm

CoachSpeak All-American

BYU didn’t beat them, they lost to them, they were better than BYU.

Whatever the reasons were they were better.

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POLL: True or False: Kalani Sitake never finishes a season ranked as BYU's HC

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 11:52am

As long as we're playing 6-7 P5 teams a year? True.

Indy Coug

2/19/20 11:53am

Last 3 years we are 11-12 vs. G5 teams.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:07pm

Irrelevant. The P5 schedule alone will do us in.

Indy Coug

2/19/20 12:09pm

We finished ranked multiple times with similar schedule strength not long ago.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:18pm

If we were in the MWC right now we still wouldn't be close to finishing ranked

CaliWG

2/19/20 12:12pm

Kalani is <.500 against G5 teams with some truly unforgivable losses

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 12:21pm

Sadly, under the present conditions I don't think there is a coach

BYU71

2/19/20 11:54am

We could have last year if we had a coach that could beat bad G5 teams

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 11:55am

True, we could also be national champs if we had a coach that went 12-0.

BYU71

2/19/20 11:56am

Are SDSU and Hawaii bad G5 teams?

Indy Coug

2/19/20 11:56am

Toledo, USF, Hawaii all should have been teams BYU beat comfortably

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 11:59am

Hawaii beat SDSU...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:06pm

BYU set the expectations of the season after beating Tennessee and USC

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 12:12pm

I think ultimately teams are what they are...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:22pm

BYU has very rarely beaten 8 win P5 teams. They beat 2 last season, and that

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 12:24pm

SDSU finished 51, Hawaii 68. After being a top 40 team on avg for decades BYU

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:17pm

What BYU was has little to do with what they currently are...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:24pm

We averaged a 33 finish from 05-15. This isn't just a "glory days" thing.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:25pm

It is a "current" thing...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:34pm

Yes after decades of being a solid program--they are now a bottom half FBS team.

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:40pm

I don't really have the answer...

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 12:44pm

I also don't understand why expectations should be lowered so quickly

Mr. Scoobs

2/19/20 12:54pm

The Kalani defenders sound like Obama on the economy circa 2016

CaliWG

2/19/20 12:58pm

It's not defending Kalani, it's a rational analysis of the national landscape in 2020 and BYU's place in it

Indy Coug

2/19/20 1:14pm

Bring back the Anae "heavy" Air Raid. It fits BYU's talent pool perfectly

CaliWG

2/19/20 1:30pm

The two things BYU can control are 1. Dial back the number of P5 teams back to historical norms (2-3 a year)

Indy Coug

2/19/20 12:54pm

BYU can control hiring a coach with leadership skills

CaliWG

2/19/20 1:01pm

Sos is a horrible measure for determining how difficult the schedule is

BYU '80

2/19/20 1:30pm

We have very little precedent to expect to beat those teams on the road.

Blue Cat

2/19/20 1:06pm

That's the part I take issue with on the claims BYU "should have beaten" those

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 1:33pm

If BYU beat SDSU and Hawaii neither would have won 10 games, which makes winning

MikeDitka'sStache

2/19/20 1:36pm

But they still win 9. BYU is 6-39 on the road vs. 9+ win teams.

Blue Cat

2/19/20 1:40pm

Excellent points. How many 9 win teams did BYU beat last season?

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 7:25pm

BYU didn’t beat them, they lost to them, they were better than BYU.

CoachSpeak

2/19/20 7:26pm

The coach would have to beat good P5 teams + beat all the bad G5 teams

donnerstag

2/19/20 11:58am

Come on, this is just stupid. BYU isn't all doom and gloom. Yes it sucks and

Cougar TD

2/19/20 12:58pm

But they "didn't" fix things last year and so they weren't ranked,

BleedCougarBlue2

2/19/20 5:07pm

RE: But they "didn't" fix things last year and so they weren't ranked,

Cougar TD

2/19/20 7:24pm

RE: POLL: True or False: Kalani Sitake never finishes a season ranked as BYU's

XwhyZ

2/19/20 7:01pm

Fake news

travelcoug

1/12/21 2:03pm

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