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Sep 14, 2020
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DoseOfReality
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If you aren't from Utah and just look at the numbers, BYU and Utah look similar.
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/compare?xwalk_id=230038&xwalk_id=230764
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BYU dropped to #80 in US News and World Report rankings
run26
9/14/20 12:15pm
Probably some change in rating criteria, like diversity or something.
Turnpike Lane
9/14/20 12:16pm
Probably less to do with academics and more to do with wokeness.
Ragnar Danneskjold
9/14/20 12:16pm
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rivercitycoug
9/14/20 12:19pm
If we control for certain factors of their ranking, things look very different
I'm Dynamite
9/14/20 12:19pm
lack of wokeness and critical race theory acceptance.
Iman23
9/14/20 12:19pm
Here are the factors that determine the rankings
newbie
9/14/20 12:22pm
for those who posted above - it has nothing to do with wokeness 🙂
newbie
9/14/20 12:23pm
At least overtly
BYU '80
9/14/20 12:30pm
Yeah, there's a couple very subjective rankings, like peer assessment...
Ragnar Danneskjold
9/14/20 12:32pm
It'll get there...they'll add a diversity index or some other PC nonsense. It's
Iman23
9/14/20 12:32pm
Things that hurt BYU's ranking that don't affect student outcomes (bad measures)
I'm Dynamite
9/14/20 12:54pm
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rivercitycoug
9/14/20 12:23pm
"Increased the weight of outcome measures. "
ag4cougs
9/14/20 12:29pm
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rivercitycoug
9/14/20 12:29pm
If you aren't from Utah and just look at the numbers, BYU and Utah look similar.
DoseOfReality
9/14/20 12:35pm
right now BYU and UU are 10-15 spots apart, not exactly significant
run26
9/14/20 12:37pm
Also - BYU get's downgraded for having a low graduation rate
newbie
9/14/20 12:37pm
that's not new
run26
9/14/20 12:45pm
Maybe more female missionaries?
I'm Dynamite
9/14/20 1:25pm
But there are also way more students now than in the past who don't enroll at
Scratch
9/14/20 1:28pm
That's true. We'd need numbers to decide.
I'm Dynamite
9/14/20 1:44pm
Anecdotal, but still...
Division Bell
9/14/20 12:49pm
Top BYU students compare with top students anywhere very favorably.
I'm Dynamite
9/14/20 12:56pm
Point is that dropping down to #80 seems drastic, and not related to academics.
Division Bell
9/14/20 12:59pm
I agree. See my post above about bad measures.
I'm Dynamite
9/14/20 1:04pm
Yes, but the flip side is also very true. As noted above, the weight of
Scratch
9/14/20 1:27pm
Which side is it?
I'm Dynamite
9/14/20 1:44pm
Scratch is Utah fan trying to argue Utah is better than BYU academically
Lieutenant America
9/15/20 3:34am
In some ways it is, and in some ways it isn’t. Tons of ranking systems have the
Scratch
9/15/20 7:14am
I’m only aware of one semi-reputable ranking system that has Utah ahead of BYU
Lieutenant America
9/15/20 9:09am
The one everyone looks at is US News World Report
run26
9/15/20 10:40am
This is actually incredibly disappointing and almost pathetic by BYU admin.
Lieutenant America
9/15/20 3:16am
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