I don't know if I've ever seen a crew that took so long to make calls.

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Oct 17, 2020
12:14:15am

JuicyJam All-American

Even routine stuff seemed to require a discussion.

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JuicyJam

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Critical officiating mistakes:

The Y's Insider

10/17/20 12:08am

RE: Critical officiating mistakes:

FT487

10/17/20 12:10am

Big 12. Holgerson cussed in the post game when brought up. Not a fan of them

thegoodmeister

10/17/20 3:01am

Didn’t get enough calls for his money?

AZcougLawyer

10/17/20 3:44am

And approximately half the game was spent with the refs huddled up trying to figure out what happened

bag

10/17/20 12:10am

So painful. I was annoyed with it when we were winning, it became almost

cougsareforreal

10/17/20 6:17am

Late hit oob was bad too.

bluecheese

10/17/20 12:10am

Meh. My biggest beef was how long they talked about every stinking penalty.

hxmCougar2000

10/17/20 12:10am

^^^THIS. Implement a 90 second rule. If you can't confidently overturn it in 90

BYUHawk

10/17/20 12:33am

One reason the NFL is more watchable. They try to fit games in 3 hr windows,

The Chelsea Dagger

10/17/20 2:05am

Glad I'm not alone. I thought these same things. BYU struggled during this time.

Benfica1

10/17/20 12:10am

Block in the back was legit on Cosper. Not Barrington.

Turnpike Lane

10/17/20 12:10am

Yes the illegal block was further upfield, not on the LOS

Dan

10/17/20 2:08am

They may call it a "block" but he hardly touched him. Literally.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/17/20 9:14am

Dude flopped. He totally sold the call.

whoneedscorners?

10/17/20 10:03am

Interfering with a opportunity tocatch a punt was a terrible call. It was muffed

BostonCougar

10/17/20 12:10am

This was a bad call in our favor.

bythenumbers

10/17/20 12:11am

Which makes it a good call. 😉

blueaussie

10/17/20 7:35am

It gave us 15 yards, but I think we recovered anyway, so it didn’t negate a TO

Trent

10/17/20 10:34am

Why? The players were within a yard (the rule).

Benfica1

10/17/20 12:11am

I don’t think so

bag

10/17/20 12:11am

The kick catch interference? How so? The guys foot was almost stepping on Milne

byusage

10/17/20 12:12am

It was one that technically was a penalty but you rarely see it called unless

bythenumbers

10/17/20 12:14am

No way- contact is not neccesary. A rule is a rule and that one wasn't even

byusage

10/17/20 12:15am

Again, I realize the rule, but you rarely see it called without contact

bythenumbers

10/17/20 12:17am

What did we get bailed out from? We recovered.

5150man

10/17/20 12:22am

I think it was called BECAUSE he muffed it. They threw it late and would not

Zooropa

10/17/20 12:27am

Totally agree with this, and you see that happen in this situation

bythenumbers

10/17/20 12:29am

I was officiating a HS game a couple weeks ago, on a long pass play in the final

goobermcmonkey

10/17/20 10:50am

Actually, you rarely see it UNLESS there is a fumble.

Benfica1

10/17/20 8:57am

It's true but you do see it called when there's obvious contact even with catch

bythenumbers

10/17/20 9:10am

ESPN announcers said bubble is 1 yd in front & shoulder pad width to the sides.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/17/20 9:17am

Look at the photo - sure looks close to me

bythenumbers

10/17/20 9:28am

Almost knocked knees.

Benfica1

10/17/20 9:31am

Yep. Good call. Luckily, if they had not called it, we (amazingly) recovered it.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/17/20 10:31am

It seemed like maybe it was called because not only was he w/i the window, but

Trent

10/17/20 10:36am

No way. Not on a fair catch. Easy call.

The Y's Insider

10/17/20 12:17am

Didn’t we recover anyways?

cougarblue

10/17/20 12:12am

Yes.

Benfica1

10/17/20 12:15am

Can you explain? It fit the rule exactly.

Lip Gallagher

10/17/20 12:13am

It seemed marginal but could have gone either way.

IceBlue

10/17/20 12:16am

i'd be pissed about that call if I were a Houston fan. But plenty of bad calls in their favor.

cruiserhead

10/17/20 12:17am

Why? It's literally the rule? And it's not a rule to be pissed about.

Lip Gallagher

10/17/20 12:23am

I didn't think it was that close when watching it. But fine, if it's the rule. My point was that if the roles were

cruiserhead

10/17/20 12:31am

Huh? I thought it was clear interference the moment I saw it. Refs and TV agreed

Forzaitalia

10/17/20 12:49am

Was it bc they were too close? That’s pretty easy to see

Pretorian

10/17/20 12:51am

That was a good call. We were lined up offsides on a key play in the 4th quarter though

cougarmikey

10/17/20 1:43am

When?

BleedCougarBlue2

10/17/20 9:19am

Nah take a lap bubba you’re wrong.

dizthewiz

10/17/20 2:40am

This is absolutely false and a bad take.

Ygrad

10/17/20 8:55am

shoulder width and arm length was violated. Not a bad call, but maybe a bad rule

DJROSS

10/17/20 10:27am

Rules have a big problem if a UH guy can hit a guy with the helmet outside of

puntersarepeople

10/17/20 12:11am

But that is rule problem not a ref problem

GSwarriorcoug

10/17/20 2:49am

It appears that way yes

puntersarepeople

10/17/20 7:44am

I bet he sees a suspension from the conference this week. Houston is dirty.

MVPlayer

10/17/20 10:28am

I think this was the right call. Key is what you define as "bad"

Tricky

10/17/20 11:24am

Deciding after to take the penalty when Oldroyd ran into the field

bluelands

10/17/20 12:13am

That was weird. Decline the call, then reverse it when the kicker enters....

Benfica1

10/17/20 12:16am

Weird, but not an officiating mistake.

RobAdams

10/17/20 12:17am

Are you sure that you can change your mind so late? Have you seen it anywhere?

ParentingNotForSissy

10/17/20 12:30am

I'll say this... if I'm the white hat, that doesn't happen. Once you decide

goobermcmonkey

10/17/20 10:56am

seems like there would be a rule against changing your mind. "oh, they are going to kick a field goal? nevermind!"

cruiserhead

10/17/20 12:17am

Delay of game or charge them with a time out..that would be what makes sense

cougarmikey

10/17/20 1:45am

It was weird he hadn't scouted enough to know that was within Oldroyd's range.

BYUHawk

10/17/20 12:36am

Agreed. You'd think after a coach makes a choice, that's it, no more choosing.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/17/20 9:21am

I don't know if I've ever seen a crew that took so long to make calls.

JuicyJam

10/17/20 12:14am

The head ref looked befuddled the whole game and looked like he was conducting

Forzaitalia

10/17/20 11:02am

The Pau'u was an incompletion. Need to maintain possession through the fall.

cougaman

10/17/20 12:20am

Yeah, at best it was borderline. You want the TD hang on to the ball all the way

bythenumbers

10/17/20 12:23am

is that true in the end zone? Haven't there been plays where the player reaches the ball across the goal line, then

cruiserhead

10/17/20 12:23am

Running into the end zone different rules than catching the ez

Florwood

10/17/20 12:27am

You can't say he didn't. Caught in the EZ, step, fall, slide for a bit, THEN

Lip Gallagher

10/17/20 12:24am

you can't say from the views that he definitely has possession as he is rolling

cougaman

10/17/20 12:30am

That should never have been confirmed

puntersarepeople

10/17/20 12:26am

Where does that end?

The Y's Insider

10/17/20 12:29am

Yep. If that had been called a TD they would’ve made that an incompletion

puntersarepeople

10/17/20 12:30am

The ball doesn’t literally pop straight up after a catch and slide due to “no

NorthernLight

10/17/20 8:08am

^^^^^^^ This is 100% correct.

BleedCougarBlue2

10/17/20 9:26am

Hi did maintain possession "through the fall". Play is dead when player hits the

BleedCougarBlue2

10/17/20 9:22am

The pass interference they called on 4th and 1 bailed out BYU.

Mozzymozzy

10/17/20 12:26am

I didn't think the Houston player deserved more than he got.

RobAdams

10/17/20 12:28am

I mean everyone was making jokes about the UTSA player named Wisdom this week.

Mozzymozzy

10/17/20 12:33am

For the headbutt I think it's more the action then the fact that he didn't

BYUHawk

10/17/20 12:39am

Disagree. Since there is no rule that says any touching of the helmets

Tricky

10/17/20 11:15am

I don't disagree. I'm not necessarily on the boat that he should have been

BYUHawk

10/17/20 12:31pm

Had the receiver caught the ball defenders helmet would have been helmet to ball

Rigormortise

10/17/20 12:45am

Glad to see someone that understands fundamental football

slatecoug

10/17/20 1:34am

And after all that, scoreboard: 43-26 is your final. 😁

TrueBlue58

10/17/20 12:49am

All correct

Pretorian

10/17/20 12:50am

Lots of missed holding calls too

machete

10/17/20 1:07am

We had some officiating breaks too

chazen

10/17/20 1:15am

Thanks for putting this in writing. It literally was about 10 minutes on that review. Refs in the 3rd quarter were horri

cougarmikey

10/17/20 1:41am

The non PI call against Wilcox in the 4th was gigantic.

Gerald-DeGroot

10/17/20 2:54am

Two straight pi’s in the end zone just before half. We ended up getting stopped

thegoodmeister

10/17/20 3:15am

It evened out. Houston PI call bad & no block-in-back call in us led to BYU TD

zerome4sooners

10/17/20 5:36am

What is great about that is there were even more errors, but BYU was able to

DJROSS

10/17/20 10:25am

Late hit call in the 4th too Allgeir was out of bounds and got hit.

Cosmo4life

10/17/20 10:28am

I think you missed the spitting incident as well.

YeahWhatever

10/17/20 11:13am

I think it’s sad - that given a GUTSY win on the road

Future_Tacos

10/17/20 12:21pm

Some of us are capable of having numerous thoughts after a game.

The Y's Insider

10/17/20 3:02pm

I don't understand how the refs get a pass just because we win.

Mitty

10/17/20 3:08pm

The missed offsides in the 3Q was bad too.

WhyaskY?

10/17/20 11:08pm

Wow didn't see that one. Total BS. Only penalty was maybe offsides on D.

Mitty

10/17/20 11:13pm

I noticed that one too.

5150man

10/17/20 11:43pm

this was a bad call red clearly wasn't watching what happened so he had to guess

cougaman

10/17/20 11:47pm

I thought this at the time as well. But, I don't know the rule well enough.

Benfica1

10/18/20 9:23am

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