BYU wasn’t ranked in the 1984 preseason

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Oct 27, 2020
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This is why I’m now much more in favor of getting that Army game rescheduled

The Lone Star Cougar

10/27/20 7:30am

What does army gain at this point rescheduling? I don’t think it happens.

MormonThug

10/27/20 7:32am

Knocking off a Top Ten team, but I agree with you

2FarGone

10/27/20 7:34am

I think the question is not what’s to gain for Army, but what’s changed for them

The Lone Star Cougar

10/27/20 7:34am

Clearly he doesn’t. The CV excuse was a smoke screen

towerman

10/27/20 1:33pm

at the start of the year, Army was just looking for any games. They were

cwilke1

10/27/20 3:05pm

Potentially a few million in tv revenue

cougarfann888

10/27/20 7:35am

I think numbers are all down this year. it'd be less than a few million. also

cwilke1

10/27/20 3:01pm

Not sure how contracts are worded but my understanding was most of the contracts

cougarfann888

10/27/20 3:08pm

We are hoping that that game would get picked up on a CBS slot, but the first

cwilke1

10/27/20 3:11pm

Money/profile/relevance/National TV game

bruincoug

10/27/20 8:13am

Playing primetime on CBS the day after Thanksgiving.

BerkeleyCoug

10/27/20 8:51am

Army has already been invited to the Armed Forces Bowl...they also have nothing

Borg

10/27/20 11:18am

Question:

Gentleman Stan

10/27/20 7:38am

12-0 sounds better than 10-0, especially when you're vying for a NY6 spot against 6-1 P5

2FarGone

10/27/20 7:39am

True, but that doesn't address looking for SoS games. Just number of games.

Gentleman Stan

10/27/20 7:46am

I don't think they're in if they're undefeated at all, there is no clear path

2FarGone

10/27/20 7:48am

So number of games, not quality?

Gentleman Stan

10/27/20 7:54am

You need both to get credibility as a non P5

D.T. Survivor

10/27/20 9:19am

The CFP has not provided any rankings yet, so we have no idea where they will

cwilke1

10/27/20 7:47am

Yep, there is absolutely no guarantee that a 10-0 BYU gets a NY6 invite.

The Lone Star Cougar

10/27/20 7:54am

When has BYU been stiffed by the CFP committee?

hydrocoug

10/27/20 7:57am

BYU got stiffed by the BCS folks when they were told no invitation even before

cwilke1

10/27/20 8:19am

So not CFP committee?

hydrocoug

10/27/20 8:26am

are you surprised with the position that the college football brokers actively

cwilke1

10/27/20 9:58am

BYU has not been stiffed any more than the rest of the have nots.

hydrocoug

10/27/20 11:22am

By any measurement, our wins have been significantly more impressive this year

Colorado

10/27/20 10:44am

BYU's never even be ranked by the CFP committee

BYU Fan

10/27/20 8:29am

Should they have been prior to this year?

hydrocoug

10/27/20 9:19am

Probably not (maybe in 2015) - just pointing out BYU has been irrelevant

BYU Fan

10/27/20 9:50am

I agree.

hydrocoug

10/27/20 11:08am

Agree. My question is really more academic at this point. But if the CFP

Gentleman Stan

10/27/20 7:58am

Too many unknowns to assume that a 10-0 BYU with the biggest wins

The Lone Star Cougar

10/27/20 7:51am

Please stop pretending a JC that paints its field blue is USC or Notre Dame.

LEDSFW

10/27/20 7:58am

Yeah, over the last 15 years BSU is better than both those teams.

CasualFan

10/27/20 8:03am

I think Notre Dame is better in last 15 - Notre Dame played in a national

cwilke1

10/27/20 8:26am

BSU has lost an average of 1.3 loses per season

CasualFan

10/27/20 8:35am

Also this little very relevant fact:

CasualFan

10/27/20 8:40am

And its a huge difference for BSU to play 1 or 2 top 25 games a season than to

cwilke1

10/27/20 9:17am

All true. But ND also gets a huge "benefit of the doubt" vote

CasualFan

10/27/20 9:21am

ND got into those games because they are ND.

miggida

10/27/20 12:13pm

Should we pretend that overall that JC hasn't been a more consistent program...

rtNelson

10/27/20 8:07am

My thought is this is a 1983 year. They will never take us in the CFP and most

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 8:07am

The problem I see with this, is that we will be losing plenty of talent.

rtNelson

10/27/20 8:10am

Then pray most including ZW come back. Not saying I hope this is how it goes

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 9:11am

I definitely agree. Everyone can come back for sure if they want to. However..

rtNelson

10/27/20 9:18am

I we go undefeated two seasons in a row we are going to be a #1 or 2 seed

Cougforgood

10/27/20 8:46am

Not true at all.

CasualFan

10/27/20 8:54am

More recent example is UCF: 2017 they went undefeated and beat #7 Auburn in the

BerkeleyCoug

10/27/20 9:12am

Thank you. At some point this canard needs to go away

CasualFan

10/27/20 9:17am

Hence my further explanation of what else must happen.

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 9:23am

The only relevant part is "all the other stuff"

CasualFan

10/27/20 9:28am

Exactly. Being undefeated is not enough, But it is requisite number 1.

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 9:30am

Unless or until we get into a P5 then it might be enough.

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 9:31am

Has there been an undefeated P5 not make the playoff?

Cougforgood

10/27/20 10:51am

Imagine all five P5 conf champs undefeated, someone gets left out.

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 2:47pm

Hasn't happened and not going to happen

Cougforgood

10/27/20 3:28pm

If at all it would almost always be a #4 seed unless it's a really weird year.

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 9:13am

if we were undefeated with our original schedule and equally impressive, I could

Colorado

10/27/20 10:48am

very true

Cougforgood

10/27/20 10:51am

*1979. An undefeated BYU was just inside the Top 10 going into the bowl game.

Gentleman Stan

10/27/20 10:47am

Starting ranking is important to making it to #1 in 84. 83 started unranked and

ImuaKahuku

10/27/20 2:51pm

BYU wasn’t ranked in the 1984 preseason

BYU Fan

10/27/20 3:06pm

First game win against a top 5 team does that

Cougforgood

10/27/20 3:29pm

We were "unranked" in preseason, became 13 after Pitt victory

Cougforgood

10/27/20 3:29pm

You are right we were unranked but I'm sure history helped propel to #13.

ImuaKahuku

10/28/20 9:44am

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