Maybe Mark Davis was looking for a way to dump Gruden?

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Oct 24, 2021
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Gruden gets canned for private emails and in the same breath they talk about the possible landing spots for Deshaun

Hank Rearden Truly Addicted User

10/24/21 8:02pm

Not really. It’s unacceptable for people in Gruden’s status to talk like that

BlooCoog

10/24/21 8:06pm

Saying words in emails is equal to or worse than rape and or sexual assault? That’s ridiculous. And yes, I know that

Zach Morris

10/24/21 8:15pm

"The allegations against Watson are even more unacceptable and egregious"

Charles Darwin

10/24/21 8:16pm

Reminds me of this Norm McDonald treasure

Probable Sacko

10/24/21 8:32pm

So funny

pink22

10/24/21 8:39pm

One of my favorite episodes of Comedians in Cars.

Kavorka

10/24/21 8:56pm

When over 20 women have made the same allegation toward Watson

Carnac

10/24/21 8:53pm

Serious question, why is he not playing right now?

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 8:56pm

I am guessing he isn't playing because he is likely to be in prison soon

Carnac

10/24/21 8:58pm

But who’s keeping him from playing? Houston? The NFL? Himself?

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 9:05pm

AFAIK he told Houston he'd never play for them again BEFORE the allegations and

Bainge

10/24/21 10:39pm

But western society is allowing a bizarre wholesale change of the the rules and laws. We have catapulted mean words and

Zach Morris

10/24/21 8:58pm

Do you have an example of this? I don’t think this is the case at all.

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 9:06pm

He could still be president of the US.

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:12pm

I invite him to run, then.

Carnac

10/24/21 9:18pm

It would have to be as a Republican.

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:38pm

RE: It would have to be as a Republican.

Cru Jones

10/24/21 9:59pm

Well, the former president of the US was accused of sexual assault by multiple

BlooCoog

10/24/21 10:00pm

I'd have no problem with that.

Carnac

10/24/21 10:12pm

Uh...did you read the post? I didn't say that.

BlooCoog

10/24/21 10:09pm

Courts don't matter at all.

bluecheese

10/25/21 9:53am

Maybe Mark Davis was looking for a way to dump Gruden?

JuicyJam

10/24/21 8:07pm

BTW, Gruden voluntarily resigned. You could argue that it was done under duress

SJS

10/24/21 8:14pm

I’ve talked to a couple die hard Raiders fans that aren’t too sad Gruden is gone

pink22

10/24/21 8:56pm

Did you even watch that whole segment? They're talking about Watson

SJS

10/24/21 8:12pm

Why are teams even willing to trade for Watson?

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 8:17pm

At this point no one has right?

Charles Darwin

10/24/21 8:19pm

I keep seeing that a deal to Miami is close, but who knows

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 8:27pm

RE: Why are teams even willing to trade for Watson?

SJS

10/24/21 8:21pm

They’re calling because, if he’s innocent, now is the time to act

Alpi Gusto

10/24/21 8:23pm

I guess that’s true, but it seems almost certain he’s guilty of something

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 8:29pm

Oh, for sure. I’m not saying he’s innocent at all

Alpi Gusto

10/24/21 9:32pm

Apparently "innocent until proven guilty" only applies if you're not black.

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:14pm

Why do some people not get bail?

Carnac

10/24/21 9:21pm

I’m not even making a statement on his innocence or guilt

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 9:23pm

Neither will most of the NFL

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:29pm

Richie Incognito plays for the Raiders. How ironic is that?

bluelands

10/24/21 8:12pm

It’s not really a mystery. If you’re good enough, they don’t care what you do

Alpi Gusto

10/24/21 8:17pm

That's not quite it. But the thought police would strike me down for saying it

jrifkin48

10/24/21 8:24pm

Can you show me a guy that “got away with it” who wasn’t elite?

Alpi Gusto

10/24/21 8:43pm

Cosby got off. OJ did well. Bill Clinton is enjoying life.

jrifkin48

10/24/21 8:45pm

I’m not sure you know this, but Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby did not play in the

Alpi Gusto

10/24/21 10:16pm

You are correct. I'll also throw Ray Lewis in the mix as well.

jrifkin48

10/24/21 10:25pm

So do you belive it's no big deal to say racist stuff?

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 8:27pm

Do you believe it’s no big deal to sexually assault women?

JollyGreenGiant

10/24/21 8:28pm

No. Huge deal.

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:05pm

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Hank Rearden

10/24/21 8:32pm

That’s exactly what he said. He said, “There’s nothing wrong with racism”

UNLVcougar

10/24/21 8:40pm

He downplays it by calling it "private emails."

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:07pm

That’s not downplaying if. That’s describing where the racist words were located

UNLVcougar

10/24/21 9:44pm

And showing the contrast, to drive home the point that the NFL brass are an embarrassment

Hank Rearden

10/24/21 9:51pm

Do you believe in false dichotomies?

Carnac

10/24/21 8:58pm

Racist words are disappointing and should not be said but they are still just words. If they create and or influence

Zach Morris

10/24/21 9:01pm

Are one's words, said in private, reflective of one's character?

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:08pm

Is it illegal to have a bad character?

Carnac

10/24/21 9:10pm

Gruden just lost his job, he’s not being prosecuted for anything

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 9:12pm

“Just lost his job”. Let’s imagine you losing your job over arbitrary words and descriptions

Zach Morris

10/24/21 9:16pm

*Just voluntarily resigned

SJS

10/24/21 9:17pm

*Was required to voluntarily resign or else be fired.

Zach Morris

10/24/21 9:25pm

Link? Certainly possible, but I haven't seen that confirmed.

SJS

10/24/21 9:27pm

"Arbitrary"... Yikes...

jamfam

10/24/21 9:24pm

Imagine keeping your job after sticking your stick

Carnac

10/24/21 9:25pm

I think I would rightfully lose my job if I did what Gruden did

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 9:25pm

I would lose my job for either Gruden or Watson behavior.

Carnac

10/24/21 9:26pm

Sure, that’s my point. But certain people can get away with rape or domestic violence with little to no repercussions

Zach Morris

10/24/21 9:27pm

Who’s actually getting away with it?

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 9:35pm

You keep acting like Gruden is going to jail for his "arbitrary" words. He

jamfam

10/24/21 9:35pm

Dude--let me tell you how this works in the world of narcissists.

Carnac

10/24/21 10:16pm

I think there is a very good chance that it went down exactly like you say but

jamfam

10/24/21 10:27pm

Assuming the emails were really written by him, do you think he still should not

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:26pm

Admittedly, I have not read each and every email. Yes, some words are a fireable offense and perhaps he should be fired

Zach Morris

10/24/21 9:35pm

Dude, anybody in the world would lose their job for these types of e-mails.

akmewg

10/25/21 12:46am

Is Gruden being put in jail?

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:13pm

Do we have evidence that Watson has "bad character?"

Carnac

10/24/21 9:19pm

Gruden resigned. He apparently did not contest the validity of the emails.

SoCalCoug

10/24/21 9:24pm

Just like politics and the media. If you are on their side, you play by

SoValleyCOUG

10/24/21 8:32pm

Gruden, Ray Rice, Kaepernick, Roethlisberger, Watson, Kobe, Tyreek, AB

Odysseus

10/24/21 8:38pm

Don’t really feel like it’s fair to put Kaep on this list

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 8:43pm

If anything it illustrates the point even more. Tebow could be on the list as

Odysseus

10/24/21 8:48pm

To me it was just what the players did to cause the distraction..

PHXSUNS31

10/24/21 8:53pm

Good enough at what? Being an NFL quarterback? Tebow wasn’t good at that.

pink22

10/24/21 8:58pm

Tim Tebow won a playoff game. Threw the game winning TD.

jrifkin48

10/24/21 10:45pm

Yes I remember

pink22

10/24/21 11:24pm

Tebow was terrible and so was Kap. If they were better, they would have a job

Alpi Gusto

10/24/21 10:18pm

Kaep was better than Tebow. But Kaep made a business decision too

jrifkin48

10/24/21 10:48pm

I agree with that. I should have said “Kaep wasn’t good enough to start,”

Alpi Gusto

10/24/21 11:13pm

Deshaun always gets a happy ending...

jpesk2

10/24/21 8:38pm

I’m confused at what you are complaining about? Are you complaining that Gruden

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