Imagine if someone made this argument about BYU in 2017….

Nov 29, 2021
5:42:44pm

SWMOute Redshirt Freshman

A one year assessment of a conference as a whole is absurdity. Do you think BYU is joining the Big 12 because of their success in 2021?

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SWMOute

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I had to laugh out loud, driving and heard Bill Riley talking about the Lincoln

Blueto

11/29/21 2:01pm

RE: I had to laugh out loud, driving and heard Bill Riley talking about the

provoprodigy

11/29/21 2:03pm

😭😭😭

Mjolnir

11/29/21 2:04pm

Beyond delusional. Sad part is, he actually believes it I bet.

Sparkling Delirium

11/29/21 2:06pm

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

cougarmeister

11/29/21 2:09pm

This is a funny Ute talking point. 5 drunk Utes walking into LES earlier this

rivercitycoug

11/29/21 2:08pm

Kansas would contend in the P12 south

Blueto

11/29/21 2:10pm

TBH Kansas is a FB program on the rise.

lbmango

11/29/21 4:58pm

The parallels between Kansas and Arizona are closer than they would admit.

ACrop

11/29/21 3:18pm

Kansas probably would have beaten Arizona this year.

lbmango

11/29/21 4:59pm

Funny thing is that Bill is a Kansas grad folks

AF_Puma

11/29/21 6:13pm

Someone remind him that OU is going to the SEC

braddahmike

11/29/21 2:09pm

Love your sig video.

Ode to Hoy

11/29/21 2:21pm

Bill has bought into the Ute hype 100%. He is Bill Marcroft 2.0 now.

WJCougar

11/29/21 2:09pm

“Conference of champions” lol

4slyce

11/29/21 2:11pm

Dude has been huffing way too much yewt

Turnpike Lane

11/29/21 2:12pm

This is the same guy I believe who said that the Utes are the best team in the nation based on what they have

Bob Vance

11/29/21 2:16pm

He should write sad stories for The Voice and American Idol...

WJCougar

11/29/21 2:22pm

he can't be that dumb. 3 top 20 teams in the big 12. 2 in the pac 12.

Team Cheese

11/29/21 2:21pm

Not to mention Washington at the moment and usually Oregon State falls into this

Millhouse

11/29/21 2:23pm

Washington did play Eastern Washington tough...

Blueto

11/29/21 2:28pm

lol

wok your dog

11/29/21 7:43pm

He is talking historically, not this year.

coldcoug

11/29/21 2:58pm

So, if Lincoln Riley was going to coach USC in 1991 it would be a tougher gig? 🤪

ChadFromCougarTown

11/29/21 3:07pm

What does that even mean?

deliciousmocha

11/29/21 3:11pm

It means that historically the Pac 12 and SC in particular

coldcoug

11/29/21 3:13pm

Have they though?

ChadFromCougarTown

11/29/21 3:27pm

If he wanted to play in a great conference, why not stick it out in the SEC?

YaHerdWithPerd

11/29/21 3:29pm

I don't necessarily think the P12 is currently better than B12, or it's absurd

SWMOute

11/29/21 3:42pm

They play different schedules & conferences. Include their strength of schedules

The_Cuss

11/29/21 4:18pm

Excellent Idea!

SWMOute

11/29/21 4:38pm

My bad

Blueto

11/29/21 4:40pm

As Blueto showed, the data can swing either way. So it’s close, really close

The_Cuss

11/29/21 4:53pm

For one year, maybe…

SWMOute

11/29/21 4:54pm

Kansas played in a bcs game about ten years ago

BYU '80

11/29/21 5:35pm

Closer to 15.

SWMOute

11/29/21 6:09pm

When’s the last time Arizona played in a BCS game?

The_Cuss

11/29/21 6:15pm

Uhhhh… 2014 Fiesta Bowl….

SWMOute

11/29/21 6:29pm

Ahem

Blueto

11/29/21 6:33pm

What does this have to do with this part of the thread?

SWMOute

11/29/21 6:42pm

But why? I bet if the P12 had two CFP contenders and 4 teams in the top 25

Blueto

11/29/21 6:46pm

Because the whole topic is about a coach that is leaving an easier conference to

The_Cuss

11/29/21 7:06pm

The Independents, including NM St. UConn, UMass, are ranked ahead of the PAC 12

slatecoug

11/30/21 12:41pm

My point was about Kansas and the statement they’ve sucked forever

BYU '80

11/29/21 7:18pm

No need to, don’t waste your time. It’s already done

The_Cuss

11/29/21 6:16pm

Kansas is by far the worst P-5 football program. But the Big 12 is miles ahead

YaHerdWithPerd

11/30/21 10:12am

Your ignorance and bias is showing. And the Pac12 can't hang with the new Big12.

Rise Against

11/29/21 4:53pm

This is with regards to your final paragraph about Stanford having more success than anyone in the new Big12

Rise Against

11/29/21 5:42pm

Your ignorance and bias is showing

SWMOute

11/29/21 7:24pm

the last 10 seasons, not including this one because it isn't over yet. So no, Oregon hasn't duplicated Ok States

Rise Against

11/30/21 8:15am

I suppose you’re including the season where Ok St had a 5 week head start on

SWMOute

11/30/21 9:18am

I did the last 10 seasons like you said in your post. 2011-2020. I went off the parameters you yourself stated.

Rise Against

11/30/21 9:49am

Here are the parameters I stated myself…

SWMOute

11/30/21 9:58am

Ok, I glossed over the part about excluding 2020. The point still stands though about you claiming that Stanford has had

Rise Against

11/30/21 10:30am

It could be argued, but I don't think I'd say they've had more success than

SWMOute

11/30/21 10:45am

I hate to say it but I'm going to have to agree with the Ute.

CougaRR4L

11/29/21 5:14pm

Are you sure about that?

The_Cuss

11/29/21 6:17pm

2014 Fiesta Bowl. Do some research first

SWMOute

11/29/21 6:34pm

You’re right. I missed that. So they are equal. And Billy Ute boy is wrong.

The_Cuss

11/29/21 7:07pm

Kansas was literally twice as long ago lol

SWMOute

11/29/21 7:26pm

Well we are talking about 2021

BYU '80

11/29/21 5:35pm

Imagine if someone made this argument about BYU in 2017….

SWMOute

11/29/21 5:42pm

You should try going back longer than 10 years and see how they compare?

slatecoug

11/29/21 6:09pm

14 years ago Kansas was 12-1 and won the Orange Bowl

slatecoug

11/29/21 6:11pm

7 years ago AZ played in the Fiesta Bowl. Is back to 1998 good enough???

SWMOute

11/29/21 6:36pm

To be clear all I am saying is Kansas is too terrible to compare

CougaRR4L

11/29/21 7:17pm

It’s realizing their position in the South is permanently 2nd place.

Ned Schneebly

11/29/21 3:42pm

Heard the same thing when Herm was hired at ASU

SWMOute

11/29/21 4:15pm

If you don’t see the difference between Herm Edwards and Lincoln Riley, you are

backprop

11/29/21 5:05pm

Who said I can’t see the difference?

SWMOute

11/29/21 5:11pm

Your implication was that because Utah pulls out a win against Herm Edwards

backprop

11/29/21 5:19pm

My implication was that CB made the exact comments about Herm. Nothing more.

SWMOute

11/29/21 5:25pm

From who? The guy had never coached CFB and now he was supposed to dominate?

slatecoug

11/29/21 6:07pm

Fact is, they better pray he turns USC around or it is likely USC leaves.

RealityCheck

11/29/21 4:34pm

Yeah, but look how lucky he is that there's no BYU in the Pac12 either.

Bluedarts

11/29/21 5:13pm

I’ve never been against it. I think it would add competition in multiple sports

SWMOute

11/29/21 5:19pm

If a fan of a team in your conference wanted to be completely objective about it

Bluedarts

11/29/21 5:26pm

A lot of the P12 presidents don’t want a school like BYU because their fans

SWMOute

11/29/21 5:37pm

Pig nose has a radio show?

SoValleyCOUG

11/29/21 5:33pm

I was confused for a minute. I was thinking Bill O’Reilly, and even had his

DevilCougarDragon

11/29/21 5:57pm

Then according to Bill, BYU should dominate the Big 12

slatecoug

11/29/21 6:03pm

BTW, Bill was right, there's not a Kansas in the PAC, there are multiple

slatecoug

11/29/21 6:06pm

RE: I had to laugh out loud, driving and heard Bill Riley talking about the

osbooks

11/29/21 6:17pm

Bill reiley is from Kansas. He should know better. He’s a clown show.

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