We need to remember WHY p12 is imploding ... because they aren't valuable brands

Jul 5, 2022
11:11:54am

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People on the West Coast are not watching football like they used to, outside of a very few schools. They do not have strong fanbases.

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Dennis Dodd with a great July 5 update. Appears the Big 12 is being aggressive.

BlooCoog

7/5/22 10:42am

If Utah gets added, I'm going to be physically sick

Indy Coug

7/5/22 10:42am

I want Utah to shrivel and die as much as anyone. But they're an obvious add

Hotlanta

7/5/22 10:43am

Picking 4 of the best programs might not include the Yewts. It’s not a no

kotacoug

7/5/22 10:47am

I would expect they wouldn't increase the value of a TV deal much

Belboz

7/5/22 10:48am

They really are not, when your conference is looking for stable value adds...

Coug

7/5/22 10:48am

Not true. The Holy War would be one of the best games in the Big 12 inventory

Doogal McCougar

7/5/22 10:51am

Utah's TV numbers are heavily subsidized by dumb BYU fans that tune into them...

Coug

7/5/22 10:56am

Why would the Big XII care who watches as long as they're watching?

reddead

7/5/22 1:27pm

The WAC expansion, however, expanded with teams that didn't generate enough revenue to offset travel costs

Bob Vance

7/5/22 10:55am

And my point remains... Utah doesn't add the value... neither does Colorado... neither does Arizona.

Coug

7/5/22 10:57am

One gain in adding any of the schools mentioned is it would kill off PAC

Belboz

7/5/22 11:12am

Adding 2 of them officially kills that conference... it's already "mostly dead" - Miracle Max

Coug

7/5/22 11:14am

I wouldn't be surprised, but they are far from obvious.

runnincoug

7/5/22 10:51am

Show me some numbers. BYU already delivers the Utah market. What does Utah add?

Corn Pop

7/5/22 10:57am

Yeah, I don't see it. If BYU/U continue to play, the B12 will have broadcast

DC12

7/5/22 11:00am

RE: I want Utah to shrivel and die as much as anyone. But they're an obvious add

Ursas Puma

7/5/22 12:17pm

Except it hurts our recruiting big time

ColonelMustard

7/5/22 12:52pm

I 100% agree. I don't WANT Utah. But the Big12 does

Hotlanta

7/5/22 1:31pm

Get your Pepto Bismol ready.

Scooter

7/5/22 11:47am

Stanford over Utah all day long. UO, UW, ASU, Zona, CU, Cardinal and we ride!

SLIVER

7/5/22 12:59pm

Because it's sooo easy to play in the sandbox when Stanford is invited...

reddead

7/5/22 1:30pm

In the Pac12, Stanford's politics would fly. In Texas and the Big 12 not so much

SLIVER

7/5/22 1:38pm

LOL fair enough

reddead

7/5/22 2:01pm

I can think of 10 programs left in the pac 12 that I would take over them and 4

Tuskaloosa Cougar

7/5/22 1:00pm

Now there is something more official rather than Wildcat authority. The race is

Schrodizzy

7/5/22 10:43am

This would be awesome

letthewookieewin

7/5/22 10:43am

Obvious add: Arizona schools. Probable add: OU/Wash/CU/Utah. I assume those 6?

SUAVO

7/5/22 10:44am

I'd be happy with Arizona and ASU and stopping right there.

Belboz

7/5/22 10:49am

Not a bad idea. Stay at 14 after OU/UT leave. Whatever happens to the rest of

SUAVO

7/5/22 11:26am

Still don't understand how a Pac-12/Big 12 merger makes any sense for the Big 12

TNT

7/5/22 10:46am

It removes the PAC-12 as a competing entity which removes the risk of any Big 12

cougarfan84

7/5/22 11:19am

Going to 18 teams, with 7 of them being from the West, makes little sense...

Coug

7/5/22 10:47am

Especially if they are hoping to add some ACC schools

TNT

7/5/22 10:54am

Fully agree. That’s why I’m surprised Utah, Colorado, and Arizona are being

BlooCoog

7/5/22 10:55am

We need to remember WHY p12 is imploding ... because they aren't valuable brands

runnincoug

7/5/22 11:11am

BIG12 Survival must first be ensured before worrying too much about

canofpicante

7/5/22 11:12am

The PAC12 was the least revenue producing conference in the country WITH USC and UCLA...

Coug

7/5/22 11:18am

And what would comp look like with the addition of the six best big 12 teams?

canofpicante

7/5/22 11:23am

With the threat of Washington and/or Oregon Leaving to the B10? less than what the BIG12 will make...

Coug

7/5/22 12:27pm

Yep. And if they leave you invite two more BIG12 teams.

canofpicante

7/5/22 2:28pm

That is primarily owing to the timing of their TV deal

Doogal McCougar

7/5/22 11:28am

The article literally says revenue difference between the 2 conferences (as they currently stand) would be negligible

krindorr

7/5/22 12:08pm

Which raises the outside possibility of a nightmare scenario

krindorr

7/5/22 1:25pm

UU/CU is a reach. They’ll be there anytime you want em. 18 is a big big league

rainorsnow

7/5/22 10:54am

I’d prefer the B12 get ASU and Colorado and then wait for UO and UW to come to terms with the B12 as their best option.

Housemartin

7/5/22 10:55am

Agreed. Or Stanford instead of Colorado. Those are the best PAC 12 options. The

BlooCoog

7/5/22 11:08am

This is my stance, as well. Get PHX and DEN, then wait to see what UO and UW

BYUHgrad

7/5/22 12:22pm

Eat or be eaten. I say go for it

wisconsincougs

7/5/22 12:20pm

If I am BYU and I have a say...

Traveling Coug

7/5/22 12:54pm

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ACrop

7/5/22 1:54pm

I read the article as saying that the only value in adding the U is in reference

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