Don't underestimate how Pac-12 schools feel about elitism

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So AZ & ASU presidents, Utah’s AD, and Colorado’s AD (awhile back) are all

BlooCoog

3/15/23 10:45pm

Everyone thought a lot of the teams that have bolted were dedicated to their

BYU '80

3/15/23 10:49pm

I don't think anyone thought that schools like Texas, Oklahoma,

CatamountFan

3/16/23 9:37am

But the messaging throughout from administrators is that they were

BYU '80

3/16/23 2:22pm

I think Yormark shot his shot, but none of the schools prematurely jumped, and probably won’t at this point.

OPINIONS

3/15/23 10:49pm

Of course a ute fan thinks this, lol

LaVellIfIKnow

3/15/23 10:53pm

We’ll see if I’m right. This is the first time I’ve predicted anything on the topic.

OPINIONS

3/15/23 11:04pm

The only thing for sure is that no decision has yet been made

akbarishiwatsu

3/15/23 11:38pm

This is the key. For as much as some laugh at the Big 12, the Big 12 got its

rainorsnow

3/16/23 4:06am

I agree. I think the Pac x stays put as long as the B1G doesn't raid and they

CatamountFan

3/16/23 9:39am

I think your are right. I do think Arizona should get some cojones and make the

johnnybyu

3/15/23 10:54pm

The Arizona situation is kind of odd. You would think they would jump

TNT

3/15/23 10:59pm

Academics are generally risk adverse

johnnybyu

3/15/23 11:03pm

Yormark seems like a good salesman, but no one wants to join the Big12

Medute

3/15/23 10:55pm

Big 12 fans are sensitive? A PAC 12 fan saying this? Hmmm

BlooCoog

3/15/23 10:57pm

Well we all know why you are here commenting on this....

WJCougar

3/15/23 11:13pm

I think it was the ASU Pres that also called Yormark 'a good salesman'.

Florwood

3/15/23 11:23pm

I believe it was the Arizona president who said that. The exact quote was

BlooCoog

3/16/23 12:34am

I'm totally fine with the Woke-10 staying together. If it means that there is no

Stalwart Man

3/16/23 9:50am

Don't underestimate how Pac-12 schools feel about elitism

TNT

3/15/23 10:56pm

Can't put a price on that one.

zonacougar

3/15/23 11:00pm

PAC-10 acting elitist yet their conference is falling apart and they have a

WDaddy

3/15/23 11:07pm

It's all down to the deal (and it always has been). Yormark's only selling point is going to be if the B12 deal is

zonacougar

3/15/23 10:58pm

I feel like Arizona could gain an advantage on ASU for moving. If it were a

johnnybyu

3/15/23 11:00pm

For sure. Always follow the money. Visibility will also be an issue. Also what

BlooCoog

3/15/23 11:00pm

This quote about the Pac-12 is tough to get over if you're hoping AZ jumps

TFL

3/15/23 11:03pm

They have a chance for gold in Bball or they can go for 6th place

johnnybyu

3/15/23 11:04pm

Yeah, his comments about Big 12 bball were legit. Even saying Coach Lloyd himself would prefer it. What's interesting

TFL

3/15/23 11:14pm

All depends on what the final numbers are and how they are calculated. If

BlooCoog

3/15/23 11:09pm

Maybe. But the current deal pays out $21 million. They're looking at $25 to $30 million. Not sure

TFL

3/15/23 11:19pm

RE: Maybe. But the current deal pays out $21 million. They're looking at $25 to

WJCougar

3/15/23 11:20pm

Everyone who has reported on this all seem to believe that ultimately they stay

SnickSnack

3/15/23 11:27pm

Agreed. Not sure it's such a bad thing though. The big 12 and the Pac 12 rivalry is becoming a fun and tangible

TFL

3/15/23 11:33pm

Will Big 12 and PAC 12 even play each other though?

BlooCoog

3/16/23 12:57am

Just the constant talk and debate. Especially since the pac-12

TFL

3/16/23 1:32am

It's worse because nobody will see it. If you are trying to put together a

Cheap Seats

3/16/23 12:04am

ESPN will have tier 1 content. The best game each week. I'm betting the top 3-4 teams get regular appearances, probably

TFL

3/16/23 12:57am

Losing the revenue that USC and UCLA bring plus paying Wash and Ore a bigger cut...the others are destitute

coot20

3/16/23 12:28am

RE: This quote about the Pac-12 is tough to get over if you're hoping AZ jumps

WJCougar

3/15/23 11:15pm

SEC and B1G share gold, Big12 silver, PAC bronze?

NYC and Japan

3/16/23 7:37am

Did the Arizona president really say they were fully committed to the pac 10? Sounded pretty ambiguous to me.

ManicBlue

3/15/23 11:13pm

He didn’t say they were fully committed but said they’d all like to stay

BlooCoog

3/15/23 11:16pm

Consider though that Mandel was the author of that article. Easily could have edited the conversation to make it

ManicBlue

3/16/23 12:30am

Had me until last sentence. Utah has no options.

Brandoblueblood

3/16/23 12:02am

RE: Had me until last sentence. Utah has no options.

UteZ

3/16/23 1:14am

There is NO deal.

UC Ute

3/16/23 7:53am

False. The AZ president in this article says he talks to Brett Yormark “all the

BlooCoog

3/16/23 8:11am

You believe media guys?!

UC Ute

3/16/23 8:39am

and you believe Harlan? Bwahahaha

ManicBlue

3/16/23 8:48am

RE: and you believe Harlan? Bwahahaha

UC Ute

3/16/23 8:51am

Right ... Harlan is not motivated at all and is totally impartial. You believe him because you want to believe him.

ManicBlue

3/16/23 9:12am

RE: Right ... Harlan is not motivated at all and is totally impartial. You

UC Ute

3/16/23 9:34am

links to actual sources? which ones are confirming Harlan's not fake news then?

ManicBlue

3/16/23 9:58am

RE: links to actual sources? which ones are confirming Harlan's not fake news

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:13pm

So ... you have nothing then? Nothing from a source that's not motivated to toe the party line. hahahaha

ManicBlue

3/16/23 1:16pm

RE: So ... you have nothing then? Nothing from a source that's not motivated to

UC Ute

3/16/23 2:53pm

I waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out of the corner of my office

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 2:03pm

RE: I waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out of the corner of my office

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:04pm

No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not the

BlooCoog

3/16/23 9:15am

RE: No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:10pm

RE: No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not

BlooCoog

3/16/23 5:11pm

RE: No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not

UC Ute

3/16/23 5:22pm

CORRECTION. There is NO media deal.

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 8:45am

Long game

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 8:44am

The Long Game!

UC Ute

3/16/23 8:50am

The ACC is not merging with the Pac

CameronG

3/16/23 10:24am

RE: The ACC is not merging with the Pac

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:15pm

As you just said it wouldn't happen until after the B1G and SEC take who they

CameronG

3/16/23 2:12pm

RE: As you just said it wouldn't happen until after the B1G and SEC take who

UC Ute

3/16/23 2:48pm

Outside of Oregon/Washington the Pac's brands are worse than the Big 12.

CameronG

3/16/23 2:57pm

RE: Outside of Oregon/Washington the Pac's brands are worse than the Big 12.

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:05pm

See you just changed from better brand to better team

CameronG

3/16/23 3:16pm

RE: See you just changed from better brand to better team

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:45pm

Anyone need "Delusional" defined?

ManicBlue

3/16/23 10:40am

RE: Anyone need "Delusional" defined?

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:16pm

Didn't Stewart Mandel say that the only additive school the Pac could have added

CameronG

3/16/23 2:14pm

RE: Didn't Stewart Mandel say that the only additive school the Pac could have

UC Ute

3/16/23 2:50pm

Keep telling yourself that while you cry yourself to sleep tonight

CameronG

3/16/23 2:59pm

RE: Keep telling yourself that while you cry yourself to sleep tonight

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:06pm

Because Utah and friends were stupid not to take the chance when they had it

CameronG

3/16/23 3:17pm

RE: Because Utah and friends were stupid not to take the chance when they had it

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:57pm

RE: Anyone need "Delusional" defined?

ManicBlue

3/16/23 2:15pm

We’ll call that “The Bigfoot Plan.”

BlooCoog

3/16/23 11:19am

RE: We’ll call that “The Bigfoot Plan.”

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:17pm

Every game needs a patsy

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 12:36pm

RE: Every game needs a patsy

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:18pm

RE: Every game needs a patsy

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 2:04pm

RE: Every game needs a patsy

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:15pm

FYI…the Big 12 is much better positioned to be the #3 conference than the P12.

BlooCoog

3/16/23 2:58pm

RE: FYI…the Big 12 is much better positioned to be the #3 conference than

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:13pm

TCU lost in the Championship... Doesn't that mean anything to you?

ParentingNotForSissy

3/16/23 3:32pm

RE: TCU lost in the Championship... Doesn't that mean anything to you?

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:54pm

Big 12 doesn't need to expand to be the clear #3 conference. We are already #1

BlooCoog

3/16/23 4:19pm

RE: Big 12 doesn't need to expand to be the clear #3 conference. We are already

UC Ute

3/16/23 4:29pm

Sustained success. Exactly. Look at the Big 12’s final AP rankings in football

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