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Mar 16, 2023
8:44:44am

davidsonlaw Starter

Long game

All of this smoke hurts the PAC media negotiations. The worse the deal is, the quicker the PAC fractures, and the weaker each program is at the end of whatever period they agree to. Change doesn't need to happen today or next week. It's better for the BigXII to let the market beat some sense into the PAC collectively and see who is entitled and snooty at the end of it. The yewts will be, it's all they have. I hope they enjoy their trips to Fresno and whatever small town CSU is in.

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davidsonlaw

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So AZ & ASU presidents, Utah’s AD, and Colorado’s AD (awhile back) are all

BlooCoog

3/15/23 10:45pm

Everyone thought a lot of the teams that have bolted were dedicated to their

BYU '80

3/15/23 10:49pm

I don't think anyone thought that schools like Texas, Oklahoma,

3/16/23 9:37am

But the messaging throughout from administrators is that they were

BYU '80

3/16/23 2:22pm

I think Yormark shot his shot, but none of the schools prematurely jumped, and probably won’t at this point.

OPINIONS

3/15/23 10:49pm

Of course a ute fan thinks this, lol

3/15/23 10:53pm

We’ll see if I’m right. This is the first time I’ve predicted anything on the topic.

OPINIONS

3/15/23 11:04pm

The only thing for sure is that no decision has yet been made

3/15/23 11:38pm

This is the key. For as much as some laugh at the Big 12, the Big 12 got its

rainorsnow

3/16/23 4:06am

I agree. I think the Pac x stays put as long as the B1G doesn't raid and they

3/16/23 9:39am

I think your are right. I do think Arizona should get some cojones and make the

johnnybyu

3/15/23 10:54pm

The Arizona situation is kind of odd. You would think they would jump

TNT

3/15/23 10:59pm

Academics are generally risk adverse

johnnybyu

3/15/23 11:03pm

Yormark seems like a good salesman, but no one wants to join the Big12

Medute

3/15/23 10:55pm

Big 12 fans are sensitive? A PAC 12 fan saying this? Hmmm

BlooCoog

3/15/23 10:57pm

Well we all know why you are here commenting on this....

WJCougar

3/15/23 11:13pm

I think it was the ASU Pres that also called Yormark 'a good salesman'.

Florwood

3/15/23 11:23pm

I believe it was the Arizona president who said that. The exact quote was

BlooCoog

3/16/23 12:34am

I'm totally fine with the Woke-10 staying together. If it means that there is no

Stalwart Man

3/16/23 9:50am

Don't underestimate how Pac-12 schools feel about elitism

TNT

3/15/23 10:56pm

Can't put a price on that one.

zonacougar

3/15/23 11:00pm

PAC-10 acting elitist yet their conference is falling apart and they have a

WDaddy

3/15/23 11:07pm

It's all down to the deal (and it always has been). Yormark's only selling point is going to be if the B12 deal is

zonacougar

3/15/23 10:58pm

I feel like Arizona could gain an advantage on ASU for moving. If it were a

johnnybyu

3/15/23 11:00pm

For sure. Always follow the money. Visibility will also be an issue. Also what

BlooCoog

3/15/23 11:00pm

This quote about the Pac-12 is tough to get over if you're hoping AZ jumps

TFL

3/15/23 11:03pm

They have a chance for gold in Bball or they can go for 6th place

johnnybyu

3/15/23 11:04pm

Yeah, his comments about Big 12 bball were legit. Even saying Coach Lloyd himself would prefer it. What's interesting

TFL

3/15/23 11:14pm

All depends on what the final numbers are and how they are calculated. If

BlooCoog

3/15/23 11:09pm

Maybe. But the current deal pays out $21 million. They're looking at $25 to $30 million. Not sure

TFL

3/15/23 11:19pm

RE: Maybe. But the current deal pays out $21 million. They're looking at $25 to

WJCougar

3/15/23 11:20pm

Everyone who has reported on this all seem to believe that ultimately they stay

SnickSnack

3/15/23 11:27pm

Agreed. Not sure it's such a bad thing though. The big 12 and the Pac 12 rivalry is becoming a fun and tangible

TFL

3/15/23 11:33pm

Will Big 12 and PAC 12 even play each other though?

BlooCoog

3/16/23 12:57am

Just the constant talk and debate. Especially since the pac-12

TFL

3/16/23 1:32am

It's worse because nobody will see it. If you are trying to put together a

Cheap Seats

3/16/23 12:04am

ESPN will have tier 1 content. The best game each week. I'm betting the top 3-4 teams get regular appearances, probably

TFL

3/16/23 12:57am

Losing the revenue that USC and UCLA bring plus paying Wash and Ore a bigger cut...the others are destitute

coot20

3/16/23 12:28am

RE: This quote about the Pac-12 is tough to get over if you're hoping AZ jumps

WJCougar

3/15/23 11:15pm

SEC and B1G share gold, Big12 silver, PAC bronze?

NYC and Japan

3/16/23 7:37am

Did the Arizona president really say they were fully committed to the pac 10? Sounded pretty ambiguous to me.

ManicBlue

3/15/23 11:13pm

He didn’t say they were fully committed but said they’d all like to stay

BlooCoog

3/15/23 11:16pm

Consider though that Mandel was the author of that article. Easily could have edited the conversation to make it

ManicBlue

3/16/23 12:30am

Had me until last sentence. Utah has no options.

Brandoblueblood

3/16/23 12:02am

RE: Had me until last sentence. Utah has no options.

UteZ

3/16/23 1:14am

There is NO deal.

UC Ute

3/16/23 7:53am

False. The AZ president in this article says he talks to Brett Yormark “all the

BlooCoog

3/16/23 8:11am

You believe media guys?!

UC Ute

3/16/23 8:39am

and you believe Harlan? Bwahahaha

ManicBlue

3/16/23 8:48am

RE: and you believe Harlan? Bwahahaha

UC Ute

3/16/23 8:51am

Right ... Harlan is not motivated at all and is totally impartial. You believe him because you want to believe him.

ManicBlue

3/16/23 9:12am

RE: Right ... Harlan is not motivated at all and is totally impartial. You

UC Ute

3/16/23 9:34am

links to actual sources? which ones are confirming Harlan's not fake news then?

ManicBlue

3/16/23 9:58am

RE: links to actual sources? which ones are confirming Harlan's not fake news

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:13pm

So ... you have nothing then? Nothing from a source that's not motivated to toe the party line. hahahaha

ManicBlue

3/16/23 1:16pm

RE: So ... you have nothing then? Nothing from a source that's not motivated to

UC Ute

3/16/23 2:53pm

I waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out of the corner of my office

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 2:03pm

RE: I waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out of the corner of my office

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:04pm

No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not the

BlooCoog

3/16/23 9:15am

RE: No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:10pm

RE: No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not

BlooCoog

3/16/23 5:11pm

RE: No, the Arizona president is directly quoted in The Athletic article (not

UC Ute

3/16/23 5:22pm

CORRECTION. There is NO media deal.

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 8:45am

Long game

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 8:44am

The Long Game!

UC Ute

3/16/23 8:50am

The ACC is not merging with the Pac

CameronG

3/16/23 10:24am

RE: The ACC is not merging with the Pac

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:15pm

As you just said it wouldn't happen until after the B1G and SEC take who they

CameronG

3/16/23 2:12pm

RE: As you just said it wouldn't happen until after the B1G and SEC take who

UC Ute

3/16/23 2:48pm

Outside of Oregon/Washington the Pac's brands are worse than the Big 12.

CameronG

3/16/23 2:57pm

RE: Outside of Oregon/Washington the Pac's brands are worse than the Big 12.

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:05pm

See you just changed from better brand to better team

CameronG

3/16/23 3:16pm

RE: See you just changed from better brand to better team

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:45pm

Anyone need "Delusional" defined?

ManicBlue

3/16/23 10:40am

RE: Anyone need "Delusional" defined?

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:16pm

Didn't Stewart Mandel say that the only additive school the Pac could have added

CameronG

3/16/23 2:14pm

RE: Didn't Stewart Mandel say that the only additive school the Pac could have

UC Ute

3/16/23 2:50pm

Keep telling yourself that while you cry yourself to sleep tonight

CameronG

3/16/23 2:59pm

RE: Keep telling yourself that while you cry yourself to sleep tonight

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:06pm

Because Utah and friends were stupid not to take the chance when they had it

CameronG

3/16/23 3:17pm

RE: Because Utah and friends were stupid not to take the chance when they had it

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:57pm

RE: Anyone need "Delusional" defined?

ManicBlue

3/16/23 2:15pm

We’ll call that “The Bigfoot Plan.”

BlooCoog

3/16/23 11:19am

RE: We’ll call that “The Bigfoot Plan.”

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:17pm

Every game needs a patsy

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 12:36pm

RE: Every game needs a patsy

UC Ute

3/16/23 1:18pm

RE: Every game needs a patsy

davidsonlaw

3/16/23 2:04pm

RE: Every game needs a patsy

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:15pm

FYI…the Big 12 is much better positioned to be the #3 conference than the P12.

BlooCoog

3/16/23 2:58pm

RE: FYI…the Big 12 is much better positioned to be the #3 conference than

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:13pm

TCU lost in the Championship... Doesn't that mean anything to you?

ParentingNotForSissy

3/16/23 3:32pm

RE: TCU lost in the Championship... Doesn't that mean anything to you?

UC Ute

3/16/23 3:54pm

Big 12 doesn't need to expand to be the clear #3 conference. We are already #1

BlooCoog

3/16/23 4:19pm

RE: Big 12 doesn't need to expand to be the clear #3 conference. We are already

UC Ute

3/16/23 4:29pm

Sustained success. Exactly. Look at the Big 12’s final AP rankings in football

BlooCoog

3/16/23 5:10pm

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