I think this Trojan write-up is still fair for Utah.

Jun 2, 2023
1:21:20pm

Tokolosh Truly Addicted User

If you're Utah, what's your move -- quick Big 12 flight or the long game for Big Ten?

Utah has some very interesting choices to make in realignment. Will the Utes bet on themselves?

https://trojanswire.usatoday.com/2022/07/05/if-youre-utah-whats-your-move-quick-big-12-flight-or-the-long-game-for-big-ten/

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My Ute (SEC homer) buddy is giddy

byukarl

6/2/23 12:55pm

It’s not actually that crazy. I could see it happening if B1G really values adding more teams from the west.

cougXor

6/2/23 12:58pm

They would add Stanford first

Warner

6/2/23 12:58pm

Exactly, they wouldn't take the SLC market and Utah brand over Bay Area and

BeardofBrigham

6/2/23 12:59pm

Especially if the Big10 wants Notre Dame, don't take Utah over Stanford.

byukarl

6/2/23 1:00pm

If it were up to USC and UCLA, Stanford is probably #1

Doogal McCougar

6/2/23 1:27pm

And Utah doesn't deliver the (small) Utah market anyway. BYU dominates it alrea

Brandoblueblood

6/2/23 2:40pm

2022. This source has Utah viewership besting BYU. Utah 33 with BYU ranked 38,

Flyoverstate

6/2/23 4:28pm

2021: According to the same source Utah #37 / BYU #42. The source includes data

Flyoverstate

6/2/23 4:53pm

Yeah probably no context needed about who the two teams were playing

BYU '80

6/2/23 5:18pm

The numbers can be adjusted and justified up or down. But in response to the claim that BYU “dominates” the market…

Tokolosh

6/2/23 5:39pm

I think you are underestimating

CrimsonCardinal

6/2/23 4:59pm

There are some red flags regarding Stanford in just the last couple of years

Medute

6/2/23 1:02pm

There is a RED FLAG regarding Utah.... it is UTAH FANS...

Real G Man

6/2/23 1:15pm

And...

ugo1st

6/2/23 3:37pm

#1- thank you Stanford

DiamondMo

6/2/23 1:15pm

Ute fan claiming red flags about Stanford...

WJCougar

6/2/23 1:27pm

And yet ute fans wet themselves every time Sanford says hi to them.

IceBlue

6/2/23 1:30pm

But their research dollars!?!

IceCreamButt

6/2/23 1:37pm

Delusion at its finest. The left-leaning (ALL UNIVERSITY PRESIDENTS ARE) elitist

pistol12

6/2/23 2:10pm

RE: There are some red flags regarding Stanford in just the last couple of years

gmoney7

6/2/23 2:16pm

From what I heard, changing their stance on transfer portal was a requirement

imfear2000

6/2/23 3:12pm

I appreciate an actual response instead of gif responses

Medute

6/2/23 5:23pm

Ha. No, it’s crazy.

mulletino

6/2/23 1:00pm

It is very crazy.

panacablue

6/2/23 1:07pm

Kevin Warren reportedly wanted WA, OR, UT and Stanford to follow USC and UCLA to

Flyoverstate

6/2/23 2:52pm

Cold fusion. Utah is a joke. AAU rating doesn't matter for them.

ugo1st

6/2/23 3:38pm

Don’t just say “reportedly.” Cite your source… ESPN? Fox Sports? CBS?

LSUcougar92

6/2/23 3:48pm

Here is a source linking Kevin Warren and possible expansion list as Washington,

Flyoverstate

6/2/23 4:08pm

Honestly, ASU getting AAU recognition is not great for Utah

krindorr

6/2/23 4:12pm

Why would Big 10 choose Utah over Arizona and Arizona St?

CougaRR4L

6/2/23 4:25pm

Some thoughts on this

krindorr

6/2/23 4:30pm

Could be right on Arizona. Good point on CO though.

CougaRR4L

6/2/23 4:50pm

Yeah, there's some clear counterpoints

krindorr

6/2/23 4:57pm

ASU also announced the start of a Medical School yesterday.

ugo1st

6/2/23 4:32pm

Stanford, CU, Cal in addition to UO/UW would all be Big10 targets before yewtah.

Mitty

6/2/23 9:43pm

Stanford, Cal, and ASu are all better Big 10 candidates. Utah will never be a

Backcountry

6/2/23 12:59pm

So is Colorado. I think utah would probably be about #8 on the list of PAC

Japan Coug

6/2/23 1:50pm

Don't underestimate the ability of their new president to get big things accomplished

DrBYU

6/2/23 1:09pm

Don't underestimate the Utah fan...

Real G Man

6/2/23 1:16pm

Not worried. So far they can’t even consummate a media deal.

zia cougar

6/2/23 5:01pm

RE: My Ute (SEC homer) buddy is giddy

Florwood

6/2/23 1:09pm

he's swearing ESPN, Chicago Post and Columbus Dispatch.. what kind of happy weed

byukarl

6/2/23 1:14pm

What is the Chicago Post? I lived in Chicago for 10 years, never heard of it

moknowssports

6/2/23 1:18pm

Will it happen? I doubt it. Too many other schools with more value. But Dismissing it completely doesn’t make sense.

Tokolosh

6/2/23 1:18pm

I think this Trojan write-up is still fair for Utah.

Tokolosh

6/2/23 1:21pm

I think it all depends on whether Utah can maintain its success after Whittingham is gone. I'm going to guess no

letthewookieewin

6/2/23 1:23pm

Can Utah maintain its success without USC and UCLA in their division? I'm going

Doogal McCougar

6/2/23 1:34pm

As I told my buddy.. that article is a YEAR ago

byukarl

6/2/23 1:28pm

I’ve encountered too many BYU fans who take a statement a Ute fan makes and turns it into a crazed story…

Tokolosh

6/2/23 1:45pm

I think your relating how a BYU fan twists what a UU fan says is not that accurate & even if it did happen there are so

Real G Man

6/2/23 4:42pm

From a fan of the school whose fans claim byu fans believe

BYU '80

6/2/23 5:23pm

I think Utah has a (smallish) shot if the B1G goes to 24 at some point.

CalGTR

6/2/23 1:57pm

If 24 is their target I’d say the chance is bigger than small. But if the target is only 20 then I’m not sure…

Tokolosh

6/2/23 2:04pm

If the target is 24, I'd put money on ACC schools before I put money on Utah

Buckeye

6/2/23 2:35pm

In the scenario of 24 I think it is fair to assume that the SEC would be involved in that arms race…

Tokolosh

6/2/23 2:45pm

If 24 is the target: Notre Dame, 4 ACC schools, Washington, Oregon gets to 23

moknowssports

6/2/23 3:12pm

I’m so grateful yewts are on here to provide rational, unbiased thoughts 😉

LumberCoug

6/2/23 2:15pm

Somebody needs to speak rationally on here.

Tokolosh

6/2/23 2:22pm

Do you know when that someone will arrive and share it with us?

Atmospheric_Cougar

6/2/23 3:33pm

12 schools? Lol

BYU '80

6/2/23 5:21pm

Congratulate him AND suggest that all

zia cougar

6/2/23 1:39pm

It’s a very simple financial model $65M plus and extra $1M per existing team. So

Nat Gas Man

6/2/23 2:16pm

So after the meeting today where a h member got $44M under the old contract . I

Nat Gas Man

6/2/23 4:16pm

Better that than Utah in the Big 12

DrewGundy

6/2/23 2:28pm

I was just going to ask: If you had to choose between...

lbmango

6/2/23 3:45pm

I see Utah to the B1G too. Eventually.

NotoriousBUD

6/2/23 3:17pm

I'm pretty sure BYU will be in the SEC eventually; like in the Millennium

moknowssports

6/2/23 3:22pm

I would personally be shocked if the Big 10 took Utah over Colorado

SlyCoug

6/2/23 3:53pm

By every metric that matters, CU would be preferred.

Mitty

6/2/23 9:45pm

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