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Jul 31, 2014
6:14:18am

2FarGone

It's "near zero," it's not actually zero.

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The Big 12 simply can't afford to add BYU (Best insight)

TheGooch

7/30/14 11:29pm

Very well written article. It explains very clearly why the B12 won't expand

jreid191

7/30/14 11:43pm

There is just so much wrong with the supposed facts in this story......ugh.

LEDSFW

7/31/14 9:15am

B12 TV contract was signed w/ESPN in Sept. 2012 - what's your source?

fleaman

7/31/14 9:27am

Don't question his sources! He is LEDSFW!

The Grouch

7/31/14 9:40am

If cash is the problem, few offer the financial clout BYU brings.

Coogar2

7/31/14 12:07pm

So it's Texas' fault. Nice.

Traveshamockery

7/31/14 12:49am

No, it is West Virginia's fault

BYUALWAYSNUM1

7/31/14 8:51am

After reading this article I realized that our chances are 0%. We can stop the

Banjo Blues

7/31/14 6:03am

I hate articles like this. There's no outside-the-box thinking.

rainorsnow

7/31/14 6:13am

^^meant for OP.

rainorsnow

7/31/14 6:14am

Explained this way it was to me. I never considered 3rd tier issues as the

Banjo Blues

7/31/14 6:14am

Of course it's been a HUGE issue. Anyone that has followed expansion knows that

rainorsnow

7/31/14 6:49am

don't blame the messenger. It's the Big 12 who is closed minded. He's just

BlueK

7/31/14 9:00am

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rainorsnow

7/31/14 10:10am

Don't be a Debbie Downer

2FarGone

7/31/14 6:14am

So you're saying there's a chance?

dilbert

7/31/14 6:26am

The article begs the question: can Y football join while keeping our ESPN deal?

Don't Muff It

7/31/14 6:28am

BYU should propose this right now

2FarGone

7/31/14 6:38am

The problem with your idea is the need for a second team to make twelve teams.

Batwing

7/31/14 8:37am

It sounds like 12 won't be a magic number for long.

rainorsnow

7/31/14 8:40am

Yes...with a scheduling agreement.

Marking Time

7/31/14 9:36am

This is a much more likely scenario IMHO.

CougarPilot

7/31/14 9:43am

This article, to me, clearly states why they must expand.

Taco Zamuka

7/31/14 6:45am

Great point. I've said before that if I were OU and Okla St, I'd look into

rainorsnow

7/31/14 6:51am

OU and OSU have signed away their TV rights to the Big 12 even if they

BlueK

7/31/14 9:03am

Unless 4 or 5 more teams leave or taken.

BYUHgrad

7/31/14 10:54am

Big 12 schools are locked into debt payments

2FarGone

7/31/14 6:55am

Expansion doesn't prevent poaching.

shoganai

7/31/14 6:57am

You're right, but sitting at 10 members invites it.

Taco Zamuka

7/31/14 7:00am

+1. And so does doing the same things the Big 12 has been doing...

rainorsnow

7/31/14 7:12am

If the SEC or B1G is going to make OU an offer it can't refuse...

shoganai

7/31/14 8:05am

He's wrong about how much B12 third tier brings

fleaman

7/31/14 7:08am

The problem is that the revenue they get from 3rd tier rights won't increase

jreid191

7/31/14 8:26am

SEC renegotiated with ESPN after expansion

fleaman

7/31/14 8:57am

ESPN/Fox have insinuated that they won't renegotiate the value with expansion

jreid191

7/31/14 9:17am

ESPN renegotiated with B12 in 2012. What's your source?

fleaman

7/31/14 9:28am

Unless BYU deals outside their TV deal. Boom fixed

Y4LYFE

7/31/14 7:49am

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East1999

7/31/14 7:57am

+1. BYU has to think long-term. Also, BYU needs to back up what it has told us

rainorsnow

7/31/14 8:18am

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shoganai

7/31/14 8:07am

the only thing this article says to me is that texas IS the big 12...

ds7

7/31/14 8:08am

WVU gets $7+ million/year for 3rd tier

fleaman

7/31/14 8:59am

Solution...

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7/31/14 8:59am

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