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Jul 9, 2015
3:40:55pm

Coogar2

If you have the talent, you will play in the NBA, whether you attend BYU or Duke

Missions didn't stop Michael Smith or Shawn Bradley from playing in the NBA. Nor did a mission stop Travis Hansen from signing with the Atlanta Hawks AS A GUARD. Your only valid point is that Frank Jackson would miss out on 2 years of prime earning potential by skipping a mission.

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Coogar2

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Frank Jackson may not serve a mission

melcahoon

7/9/15 10:40am

I don't like the article headline. He isn't still undecided

kccougar

7/9/15 10:42am

He also was once 100% committed to BYU and now he isn't!

Bensoncoug

7/9/15 10:44am

True.

kccougar

7/9/15 10:45am

He and Jabari were once "100% committed"

Y4LYFE

7/9/15 2:48pm

Jabari was never 100% anything

AzCoug1

7/9/15 5:38pm

This is the natural progression of a recruit who doesn't attend BYU

Hinta

7/9/15 10:45am

It's sad...but an accurate description.

BluePete

7/9/15 10:52am

In this case I think the affects of a mission on a potential NBA career have

johnnybyu

7/9/15 11:18am

Havent there been several Duke players who went on missions? I think there was

BYUfan92

7/9/15 12:20pm

Yes, one at least. That isn't my point though.

bluefish

7/9/15 1:03pm

Matt Christensen = Duke Bench Big, Stillman White = NC pg backup

Coogar2

7/9/15 3:27pm

this is something byu could use to its advantage.

macaroni

7/9/15 3:48pm

Meh. It's his decision, and I wish him luck, regardless of his mission status.

kunarcougar

7/9/15 10:54am

Exactly.

PGVikingDad

7/9/15 11:11am

Just curious, would you feel the same way if it was your son?

bulletproof

7/9/15 11:15am

You don't get the meh attitude about other people's kids serving missions?

The Dude Abides

7/9/15 11:21am

We disagree then. Saying that someone shouldn't do something because

bulletproof

7/9/15 12:08pm

Amen, Brother Proof

WhyKnot

7/9/15 1:52pm

And you get a bunch of slacker missionaries when they go because they felt they

The Dude Abides

7/9/15 1:58pm

Not true at all

Tom Trails

7/9/15 4:20pm

I had two who made my mission miserable.

7/9/15 10:04pm

RE: We disagree then. Saying that someone shouldn't do something because

CrimsonSpear

7/9/15 7:12pm

Have you ever served in young men's? I know how much a mission means in

7/9/15 1:30pm

Yes I have. And I've seen missionaries that didn't want to go but went because

The Dude Abides

7/9/15 1:57pm

I don't think that makes much sense.

7/9/15 5:08pm

You and I are just very different people.

The Dude Abides

7/9/15 5:37pm

<< Deleted >>

7/9/15 8:39pm

"You almost make it sound like a mission isn't for everybody."

CrimsonSpear

7/9/15 7:14pm

Of course. But you being a mission president and what kind of

7/9/15 8:36pm

I certainly would encourage a mission, but ultimately, the decision is his.

kunarcougar

7/9/15 11:28am

Don't know that anyone suggested otherwise... but speaking of strong arming...

BluePete

7/9/15 11:31am

Different schools have different climates.

kunarcougar

7/9/15 11:36am

Does "different" mean equally good?

bluefish

7/9/15 11:50am

If Frank Jackson's priority is the NBA, he will most likely choose a top

kunarcougar

7/9/15 12:17pm

No doubt. Am I taking away his agency somehow?

bluefish

7/9/15 1:11pm

No, but it's non of your business what he chooses, nor anyone else's on CB.

kunarcougar

7/9/15 1:13pm

Lets shut off cougarboard then. No point for this forum to exist without opinion

bluefish

7/9/15 1:21pm

while you may call a 18 year old kid an adult, the reality is they arent.

bulletproof

7/9/15 12:15pm

Yes, if my son was a potential NBA talent

7/9/15 1:06pm

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cajuncoug

7/9/15 5:57pm

More so. A mission ruins draft status.

7/9/15 11:02pm

Highland has a high rate of serving missions

OU Cougar

7/9/15 10:55am

Peer pressure can also drive people away in these situations

Mr Bassman

7/9/15 5:14pm

I mentioned quite a while ago I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't go

Fdnman

7/9/15 11:12am

I know Frank and family but this is my speculation which makes sense to me. I

johnnybyu

7/9/15 11:15am

^^ Good insights right here ^^

Big Daddy D

7/9/15 11:44am

Thanks. I am sure many people have told him he is a one and done but he it not

johnnybyu

7/9/15 11:55am

Good thoughts, although I would say a great out of conference schedule showcases

BYUfan92

7/9/15 12:28pm

If you have the talent, you will play in the NBA, whether you attend BYU or Duke

Coogar2

7/9/15 3:40pm

JohnnyBYU, you actually made several valid points. I overstated my response

Coogar2

7/9/15 3:43pm

Really have to be a mission, or the NBA? A

BYUHgrad

7/9/15 5:30pm

Really good post! Agree that 2-years off can be debilitating to NBA career.

roseyscenario

7/9/15 11:13pm

You may be right. I think the point is the Jacksons do not know how good he is

johnnybyu

7/9/15 11:37pm

This sounds about right to me.

roseyscenario

7/10/15 4:59am

His comments might be an indication of his intentions of not going to BYU

Cthack1

7/9/15 12:05pm

RE: His comments are exactly what you say to attract the most suitors

Coogar2

7/9/15 3:34pm

Thank you for expressing your feelings. Now I will express mine...it is highly

dultso

7/9/15 12:46pm

I think he's predestined not to go on a mission

vegas guey

7/9/15 12:53pm

RE: Thank you for expressing your feelings. Now I will express mine...it is

Ys_old_man

7/9/15 12:55pm

Here's the thing....

dultso

7/9/15 1:06pm

Well...if the prophet tells him not to go, he's excused. Quite frankly, if your

db59840

7/9/15 4:10pm

Too lazy to verify the date, but.....

dultso

7/9/15 4:35pm

I looked it up. Pres. Kimball announced that when Donny was about 17. I think he

db59840

7/9/15 4:40pm

Thanks. So do you believe Frank could only....

dultso

7/9/15 4:49pm

To be blunt. No. When the prophet gives counsel generally, it applies generally.

db59840

7/9/15 4:57pm

So Steve Young and his Bishop were wrong?

Accipiter

7/9/15 5:04pm

Unless his Bishop received counsel from the Prophet, yes, you bet. I'm not

db59840

7/9/15 5:11pm

You might want to bone up on the doctrine of revelation and priesthood keys.

Accipiter

7/10/15 12:34am

They only have the keys to determine worthiness. They cannot and should not tell

db59840

7/11/15 3:32pm

It's a practice that has changed many times and could change again.

roseyscenario

7/11/15 3:55pm

To be honest, I don't know if it was the....

dultso

7/9/15 5:15pm

On his website he says "church leaders" which I interpret as the Brethren, but

db59840

7/9/15 5:17pm

I'm going to end on this note, because like I said, religious debates

dultso

7/9/15 6:00pm

Nephi wasn't the Prophet nor did he get counsel from the Prophet to kill Laban

HarlemCoug

7/9/15 6:41pm

Did Nephi belong to the restored Church of Jesus Christ?

db59840

7/9/15 8:33pm

OK you are purposely trying to miss the point, aren't you?

Big Daddy D

7/9/15 10:22pm

RE: Thank you for expressing your feelings. Now I will express mine...it is

JuanitaCougar

7/9/15 1:13pm

I think it's possible that the Spirit could guide Frank into staying home.

HarlemCoug

7/9/15 1:47pm

Which Spirit? I doubt the Spirit of God would countermand the Prophet

Coogar2

7/9/15 3:33pm

I hate religious debates on here but here goes

dultso

7/9/15 4:16pm

I will. Martin Harris made Joseph pray until he got the answer he wanted.

db59840

7/9/15 5:14pm

Actually, you need to re-read that history....

dultso

7/9/15 5:21pm

No. I have the details right. In this case, God has already given us revelation

db59840

7/11/15 3:34pm

The Prophet says we won't baptize you if you're breaking the law yet we baptize

HarlemCoug

7/9/15 4:36pm

In your example, the exceptions were given via the Prophet.

db59840

7/9/15 4:58pm

Truly not meant to be judgmental...

byujdmba

7/9/15 1:14pm

How much of a difference could a mission have made for Jake Heaps?

Lance71

7/9/15 1:19pm

A mission doesn't have the same impact for everyone, but for Heaps

Coogar2

7/9/15 3:30pm

He would only have to rationalize his decision to the nosy onlookers

Mr Bassman

7/9/15 5:16pm

And the man looking back in the mirror.

byujdmba

7/10/15 10:32am

I never had justify my reasoning for not going to myself

Mr Bassman

7/12/15 12:54am

Translation: Going to Duke or Utah

Y4LYFE

7/9/15 2:48pm

This has all the earmarks of being Duke...anything else would be unlikely

Cthack1

7/9/15 2:53pm

You may regret where you play ball, but you'll never regret serving a mission.

BabyOx

7/9/15 2:56pm

I regretted it most days while out there. I'm now glad I did, but I'd hate

deljdc

7/9/15 3:44pm

That's what you get for going to Europe (just guessing).

db59840

7/9/15 4:13pm

LOL, you got it, Ireland. Cold, dreary, tracted in the rain day after day and

deljdc

7/10/15 12:13pm

That's gotta be brutal. I was lucky enough to go to a high-baptizing mission. It

db59840

7/11/15 3:35pm

For me, mission was DIFFICULT - but I have NEVER regretted it. Glad I went. Glad

OBXCougar

7/9/15 4:25pm

For me, lots of (self-inflicted pain), eventually lots of gain. Tough but great.

byujdmba

7/10/15 10:34am

I'm so shocked

Mr Bassman

7/9/15 5:09pm

Comments like these would probably get me to think about schools other than BYU

Thrill

7/9/15 6:09pm

RE: Comments like these would probably get me to think about schools other than

CrimsonSpear

7/9/15 7:17pm

^^^^ 2 smartest comments on this thread.

BoiseCoug7

7/9/15 7:36pm

That's ok!

BoiseCoug7

7/9/15 7:35pm

This thread was painful to read, for the most part.

messi

7/9/15 8:23pm

I hope he plays one or two years and turns pro. A mission can be done

7/9/15 11:01pm

I can honestly say that I do not think any less of anyone who decides not to

Thrill

7/9/15 11:39pm

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