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Mar 17, 2017
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thebruce
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I absolutely agree we need a wing off the bench...
Don't agree we need a PG.... I think we just need a better scheme offensively that utilizes ball screens.
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Coach Cleveland says byu needs to bring in a stretch 4.
thebruce
3/17/17 11:08am
I still think Dastrup can be that guy.
fredetteaboutit13
3/17/17 11:09am
That was supposed to be Dastrup.
byubyu
3/17/17 11:09am
No comment.
thebruce
3/17/17 11:10am
Ok I'll comment.
thebruce
3/17/17 11:13am
That was an agonizing 3 minutes for you, wasn't it.
AndyDwyer
3/17/17 11:22am
He also said: "maybe that is Dastrup"
BYUheaven
3/17/17 11:12am
Childs needs to practice free throws
LDTemplar
3/17/17 5:26pm
Something about his release is screwy
HootnHoller
3/18/17 8:02pm
I disagree
CaliWG
3/17/17 11:13am
I absolutely agree we need a wing off the bench...
thebruce
3/17/17 11:16am
We have solid PGs in Bryant and Haws
Remigius
3/17/17 11:28am
Look at BYU's "bad" losses. Every one of them was to a team with a quick PG.
CaliWG
3/17/17 11:31am
If Haws wants to play defense on the PG he has to improve his lateral
BYUheaven
3/17/17 11:37am
I'm not disputing we struggle against fast PG's.
thebruce
3/17/17 11:53am
The way to beat SMC is to pressure their ball handlers
CaliWG
3/17/17 12:11pm
I certainly agree that smc is beatable if you can pressure their guards
thebruce
3/17/17 12:18pm
and not let Landale set up where ever he wants in the low block...
icecougar
3/17/17 3:17pm
I think Haws can and will improve on D.
RoaroftheCougartails
3/17/17 2:09pm
and a major mindset change on defense from our PGs...
icecougar
3/17/17 3:08pm
Haws can become that point guard. He was a Fr, and will be better adjusted
Shteve
3/17/17 11:41am
No identity is the biggest problem, every guard and big man defends the PnR
BYUheaven
3/17/17 11:51am
BYU hasn't had a true defensive stopper at PG since Broadus
CaliWG
3/17/17 11:56am
Charles Abuou... Scheme will make up for alot of what we dont have athletically.
Shteve
3/17/17 12:04pm
Also why in that same year the speed of Malcolm Lee and Jones caused fits
BYUheaven
3/17/17 12:04pm
Hmmm, he is the last Hawaii player on BYU team. Is Villa that guy for BYU? He is
bluehawaiian
3/17/17 12:17pm
Seljaas could fill the 3/D role this upcoming season
MusicNtheSpokaneCoug
3/17/17 12:01pm
Nate Austin could have been that, but was not developed.
Shteve
3/17/17 11:14am
Isaac Nielson was that and got run off
CaliWG
3/17/17 11:15am
Very true. Makes you wonder why this isnt valued.
Shteve
3/17/17 11:19am
Watching all the WCC teams drive by our guards with no one in the key makes you
BYUheaven
3/17/17 11:22am
Yep, Austin set the screens but never was asked to do anything beyond that. A
BYUheaven
3/17/17 11:19am
I think they need a Stretch Armstrong.
PhilPete
3/17/17 11:18am
I agree because having Childs and Mika on the floor at the same time is horrible for spacing
Remigius
3/17/17 11:21am
It is Dastrup, guards are needed
chodilicus
3/17/17 11:23am
Yep, if the coaches can't develop Dastrup, Andrus, or Childs into a stretch 4
BYUheaven
3/17/17 11:29am
Yep, both Emery and Haws are 2s in how they play. They are both shoot first guys.
Turnpike Lane
3/17/17 12:03pm
To your point, I think Noah's importance to that 2011 is undervalued.
Shteve
3/17/17 11:25am
more good basketball players always helps. So yes
Mayor of Cougartown
3/17/17 11:26am
Put a headband and some wraparound goggles on Jakob Hartsock and you've got
Run-DMT
3/17/17 11:39am
Yeah I would have liked to see Hartsock stay.
jensen46
3/17/17 12:31pm
Hartsock just gave up Basketball
chodilicus
3/17/17 12:44pm
I totally agree with you on Nate. He was way under-utilized on offense and probably could have
lightmann
3/17/17 12:46pm
So what is considered a stretch 4 these days? Are we talking sheer
DJROSS
3/17/17 12:29pm
A 4 who can shoot the 3
CMuehle
3/17/17 12:56pm
I'd prefer long slashing 3's that can get to the rim and play D.
Thrill
3/17/17 12:30pm
It's not one or the other.
thebruce
3/17/17 12:36pm
The kid from Timpview on a mish...potential stretch 4?
BYUfan92
3/17/17 12:55pm
Yes, but I'm mostly referring to next season.
thebruce
3/17/17 1:03pm
BYU needs so much that it is frightening.
Archaea
3/17/17 12:58pm
Too short to be a stretch 4?
CMuehle
3/17/17 1:08pm
I think of NBA stretch 4s being 6'10 to 7'
Archaea
3/17/17 1:26pm
I think of NBA stretch 4s being 6'10 to 7'
Archaea
3/17/17 1:28pm
Why would a stretch 4 be any taller or
CMuehle
3/17/17 1:30pm
He can be a stretch 4 to some extent. Size isn't an issue at all.
thebruce
3/17/17 1:11pm
He needs to develop a 3 point shot to have any chance at the NBA, but that isn't
cougaman
3/17/17 1:50pm
This^^^*
Cnation
3/17/17 7:34pm
the concept of a stretch four isn't based on a specific height...
icecougar
3/17/17 7:47pm
Gee...too bad he ran off Isaac Neilson
icecougar
3/17/17 1:56pm
Look at the stats, Neilson not a game changer
chodilicus
3/17/17 3:11pm
when building a team, having all players as game changers doesn't always...
icecougar
3/17/17 7:35pm
Someone like Dalton Nixon or Jakob Hartsock?
Coogar2
3/17/17 3:59pm
No, I want a guy that can start who is a jc or grad transfer
thebruce
3/17/17 4:57pm
that's asking a lot
icecougar
3/17/17 7:37pm
gotta fight hard to find one. We have 5 top 100 guys on our
thebruce
3/17/17 7:56pm
for this position I wish we did better recruiting international players...
icecougar
3/20/17 1:22pm
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