Screw this talk about joining a crappy conference. When we join some G5 concfernece you know the program has given up on ever playing at the next level. That's when I check out along with thousands of others. You think playing conference games against crappy divisional state schools every year is going to make people happy? Give independence another 7-8 yrs see what we can do then at that point if the AD wants to give up and join a crap conference the so be it.