I don't think many of us look at Boise and feel any envy for their situation.

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Sep 12, 2017
2:42:04pm

ray ray All-American

I don't think many of us look at Boise and feel any envy for their situation.

Performance on the field, yes, but if we had the results they did on the field over the last 10 years, I think we would be in a better situation or atleast as good. Our frustration has more to do with the quality of our teams as an Indy than with independence itself.

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Independence vs. MWC

jrodute

9/12/17 2:05pm

Independence to the death before a return to the MWC. Curious-- once the Utes lose a couple games, don't you no longer

soupie

9/12/17 2:06pm

RE: Independence to the death before a return to the MWC. Curious-- once the

jrodute

9/12/17 2:15pm

Yes, I think indy is better than MWC for recruiting. Just look at the difference in teams played & TV.

soupie

9/12/17 2:17pm

Don't you think recruits would rather play on ESPN every week rather than a channel no one has including pac12 channels?

Rhino84

9/12/17 3:21pm

They impact the conference all season. When are they officially out? Lose two

Cougarfan777

9/12/17 2:15pm

BYU can act as a spoiler too. Just ask TX & Neb & Ok.

soupie

9/12/17 2:18pm

All those teams can still win their conference. As the Big 12 found out,

Cougarfan777

9/12/17 2:22pm

It's different for Utah

TFL

9/12/17 2:22pm

Same record in PAC 12 as same record as Indy is already proven to get you the

Tuskaloosa Cougar

9/12/17 4:01pm

no. mwc conf champ is about as meaningful as the portland state game.

smokymountainrain

9/12/17 2:06pm

We couldn't win it this year.

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 2:39pm

But better than BYU has done during indy plus MWC/AAC Champ can go NY6.

blackshirts

9/12/17 2:46pm

While my team is in the MWC, I think I speak for the my BYU brothers when I say

Dread Pirate Westley

9/12/17 2:09pm

BYU was in a no win situation once passed over by the PAC 10 & Big 12

BYU Fan

9/12/17 2:11pm

Don't you think this is a silly question?

Eddie

9/12/17 2:14pm

RE: Don't you think this is a silly question?

jrodute

9/12/17 2:34pm

Would if they could. Boise has no other choices. They have no other invites & aren't capable of going Indy.

soupie

9/12/17 2:38pm

I don't think many of us look at Boise and feel any envy for their situation.

ray ray

9/12/17 2:42pm

And you see no connection between Indy and the quality of our teams?

Cougarfan777

9/12/17 3:24pm

I do, but I think our recruiting versus MWC is better.

ray ray

9/12/17 3:41pm

BYU can point to it's schedule and say for a fact that a recruit can play on some of the biggest stages in the country.

Rhino84

9/12/17 3:25pm

Yes, we get to play 3-4 "brand" games a year, but then we're stuck playing a

CougLuv1

9/12/17 5:56pm

There is no reason why we couldn't assemble the same meat grinder schedule in

Junior Deputy

9/12/17 6:15pm

I just like playing for something vs. Playing for nothing.

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 9:13pm

The NCAA football landscape has changed.

Eddie

9/13/17 8:47am

Never MWC. I would prefer we convince Boise to join the AAC with us.

Junior Deputy

9/12/17 2:17pm

RE: Never MWC. I would prefer we convince Boise to join the AAC with us.

jrodute

9/12/17 2:23pm

BYU has a national fan base. The AAC is far less regional than the MWC.

Junior Deputy

9/12/17 2:29pm

Superiority complex. We were in the same conference as all those teams for

Cougarfan777

9/12/17 2:29pm

All of the sudden?

BYUFam1

9/12/17 3:43pm

Also you mentioned "we continue to lose to them"

BYUFam1

9/12/17 10:22pm

Nothing to play for argument is oversold. Any team that looses its first couple

ray ray

9/12/17 2:20pm

Many BYU fans are sick of independence...

Cougarfan777

9/12/17 2:23pm

Didn't BYU have some solid wins vs. Miss. State, Mich State and AZ?

TFL

9/12/17 2:29pm

This is crap. They are tired of losing. Apples and oranges comparisons are given and they think all of a sudden a

Rhino84

9/12/17 3:30pm

Disagree - Independence if we can't get into a P5

Pobs

9/12/17 6:16pm

MWC 100%. BYU can't get back in that conference fast enough for me.

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 2:39pm

or AAC.

blackshirts

9/12/17 2:43pm

Only if we get to bring Boise, SDSU, and AFA and get Navy and Houston in our div

boscatar

9/12/17 3:00pm

I don't think anyone is saying that these teams are more talented.

Eddie

9/12/17 2:48pm

I dont think the # is significant.

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 3:40pm

They got out because they could make much more money as an independent.

Bullrider

9/12/17 2:59pm

I think TV, $, and conference could all work out if BYU wanted back in.

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 3:46pm

Why do you assume they would even want us? The MWC was more than just

Bullrider

9/12/17 8:03pm

Maybe you're right. However I think they will work with us.

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 9:15pm

Good point. Part of what made the MWC days fun was

TFL

9/12/17 3:03pm

There have been changes, but it's all nuance.

Eddie

9/13/17 8:53am

Crazy talk. Myself and countless other fans would be done as seriuous

kotacoug

9/12/17 3:17pm

Go down fighting? When? Why can't you be in a conference and still fight?

Cougarfan777

9/12/17 3:19pm

Go down fighting to be either independent or a P5 member

kotacoug

9/12/17 3:47pm

I think your opinion is a minority opinion. Most BYU fans were fans in the MWC

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 3:53pm

Yea, it sucks in November when we have to play MWC teams.

Rhino84

9/12/17 3:55pm

Yeah, because Wyoming almost beat us in the Holiday bowl.

coldcoug

9/12/17 7:39pm

Games in November are going to suck either way with being independent or in a

kotacoug

9/12/17 4:02pm

Fresno, SJSU, UNLV, HI down the stretch would mean more if BYU were in the MWC

boscatar

9/13/17 8:35am

Lesser quality opponent is alright if the games count for something.

CougarinOZ

9/12/17 5:26pm

Nope. not a minority. I agree with him.

Pobs

9/13/17 2:30pm

Question: Do you have an issue with the targeting or targeting call? Just checking for credibility....

Refugee

9/12/17 3:13pm

RE: Question: Do you have an issue with the targeting or targeting call? Just

jrodute

9/12/17 3:27pm

Yes, on Sunia...

Refugee

9/12/17 3:33pm

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jrodute

9/12/17 3:26pm

MWC is the better short term option.

Big Time 55

9/12/17 3:31pm

See...this is what yewts hope and pray for more than for their team winning the

ol' Blue Eyes

9/12/17 3:55pm

RE: See...this is what yewts hope and pray for more than for their team winning

jrodute

9/12/17 4:07pm

I don't think the board is very split on this subject. There is a lot of

ray ray

9/12/17 5:49pm

I disagree. Utah's performance in

TFL

9/12/17 4:36pm

How many MWC championships did yewta win compared to BYU?

ol' Blue Eyes

9/12/17 4:55pm

RE: How many MWC championships did yewta win compared to BYU?

9/12/17 5:54pm

This years schedule is no better than a MW schedule. In a lot of ways it's worse

jackcrack7

9/12/17 4:25pm

There are many who think it's going backwards. It's not!! They are worried about

blackshirts

9/12/17 9:09pm

BYU would not schedule Utah, LSU, Wisconsin and Mississippi St. if in the MWC

boscatar

9/13/17 8:37am

Why not?

jackcrack7

9/13/17 9:24am

*Some of the OOC schedule - not the entire OOC schedule.

boscatar

9/13/17 9:39am

This year the schedule has 3 plus Utah.

jackcrack7

9/13/17 10:08am

Last year BYU had 6; next year 5. '20 has 6. '21 has 7. Can't do that w/ G5 sked

boscatar

9/13/17 10:33am

Troll much? Beyond TV exposure, better competition, and more money...

Stalwart Man

9/12/17 5:24pm

I'd move the school back to MWC so fast...ya'lls heads would spin

byuguns55

9/12/17 8:40pm

Less exposure...less money...fewer fun games...less prestige/recognition.

ol' Blue Eyes

9/12/17 9:56pm

Those are the founding lies of Independence

CougarinOZ

9/13/17 8:13am

Your first point is exactly why BYU is not in the MWC. The MWC didn't abide by an earlier agreement to allow

Rhino84

9/13/17 8:37am

AAC western expansion, that includes Boise St. and Gonzaga...

boscatar

9/13/17 8:37am

no way. pull back from the ledge.

Pobs

9/13/17 2:32pm

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