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Sep 13, 2017
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Last year BYU had 6; next year 5. '20 has 6. '21 has 7. Can't do that w/ G5 sked
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Independence vs. MWC
jrodute
9/12/17 2:05pm
Independence to the death before a return to the MWC. Curious-- once the Utes lose a couple games, don't you no longer
soupie
9/12/17 2:06pm
RE: Independence to the death before a return to the MWC. Curious-- once the
jrodute
9/12/17 2:15pm
Yes, I think indy is better than MWC for recruiting. Just look at the difference in teams played & TV.
soupie
9/12/17 2:17pm
Don't you think recruits would rather play on ESPN every week rather than a channel no one has including pac12 channels?
Rhino84
9/12/17 3:21pm
They impact the conference all season. When are they officially out? Lose two
Cougarfan777
9/12/17 2:15pm
BYU can act as a spoiler too. Just ask TX & Neb & Ok.
soupie
9/12/17 2:18pm
All those teams can still win their conference. As the Big 12 found out,
Cougarfan777
9/12/17 2:22pm
It's different for Utah
TFL
9/12/17 2:22pm
Same record in PAC 12 as same record as Indy is already proven to get you the
Tuskaloosa Cougar
9/12/17 4:01pm
no. mwc conf champ is about as meaningful as the portland state game.
smokymountainrain
9/12/17 2:06pm
We couldn't win it this year.
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 2:39pm
But better than BYU has done during indy plus MWC/AAC Champ can go NY6.
blackshirts
9/12/17 2:46pm
While my team is in the MWC, I think I speak for the my BYU brothers when I say
Dread Pirate Westley
9/12/17 2:09pm
BYU was in a no win situation once passed over by the PAC 10 & Big 12
BYU Fan
9/12/17 2:11pm
Don't you think this is a silly question?
Eddie
9/12/17 2:14pm
RE: Don't you think this is a silly question?
jrodute
9/12/17 2:34pm
Would if they could. Boise has no other choices. They have no other invites & aren't capable of going Indy.
soupie
9/12/17 2:38pm
I don't think many of us look at Boise and feel any envy for their situation.
ray ray
9/12/17 2:42pm
And you see no connection between Indy and the quality of our teams?
Cougarfan777
9/12/17 3:24pm
I do, but I think our recruiting versus MWC is better.
ray ray
9/12/17 3:41pm
BYU can point to it's schedule and say for a fact that a recruit can play on some of the biggest stages in the country.
Rhino84
9/12/17 3:25pm
Yes, we get to play 3-4 "brand" games a year, but then we're stuck playing a
CougLuv1
9/12/17 5:56pm
There is no reason why we couldn't assemble the same meat grinder schedule in
Junior Deputy
9/12/17 6:15pm
I just like playing for something vs. Playing for nothing.
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 9:13pm
The NCAA football landscape has changed.
Eddie
9/13/17 8:47am
Never MWC. I would prefer we convince Boise to join the AAC with us.
Junior Deputy
9/12/17 2:17pm
RE: Never MWC. I would prefer we convince Boise to join the AAC with us.
jrodute
9/12/17 2:23pm
BYU has a national fan base. The AAC is far less regional than the MWC.
Junior Deputy
9/12/17 2:29pm
Superiority complex. We were in the same conference as all those teams for
Cougarfan777
9/12/17 2:29pm
All of the sudden?
BYUFam1
9/12/17 3:43pm
Also you mentioned "we continue to lose to them"
BYUFam1
9/12/17 10:22pm
Nothing to play for argument is oversold. Any team that looses its first couple
ray ray
9/12/17 2:20pm
Many BYU fans are sick of independence...
Cougarfan777
9/12/17 2:23pm
Didn't BYU have some solid wins vs. Miss. State, Mich State and AZ?
TFL
9/12/17 2:29pm
This is crap. They are tired of losing. Apples and oranges comparisons are given and they think all of a sudden a
Rhino84
9/12/17 3:30pm
Disagree - Independence if we can't get into a P5
Pobs
9/12/17 6:16pm
MWC 100%. BYU can't get back in that conference fast enough for me.
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 2:39pm
or AAC.
blackshirts
9/12/17 2:43pm
Only if we get to bring Boise, SDSU, and AFA and get Navy and Houston in our div
boscatar
9/12/17 3:00pm
I don't think anyone is saying that these teams are more talented.
Eddie
9/12/17 2:48pm
I dont think the # is significant.
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 3:40pm
They got out because they could make much more money as an independent.
Bullrider
9/12/17 2:59pm
I think TV, $, and conference could all work out if BYU wanted back in.
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 3:46pm
Why do you assume they would even want us? The MWC was more than just
Bullrider
9/12/17 8:03pm
Maybe you're right. However I think they will work with us.
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 9:15pm
Good point. Part of what made the MWC days fun was
TFL
9/12/17 3:03pm
There have been changes, but it's all nuance.
Eddie
9/13/17 8:53am
Crazy talk. Myself and countless other fans would be done as seriuous
kotacoug
9/12/17 3:17pm
Go down fighting? When? Why can't you be in a conference and still fight?
Cougarfan777
9/12/17 3:19pm
Go down fighting to be either independent or a P5 member
kotacoug
9/12/17 3:47pm
I think your opinion is a minority opinion. Most BYU fans were fans in the MWC
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 3:53pm
Yea, it sucks in November when we have to play MWC teams.
Rhino84
9/12/17 3:55pm
Yeah, because Wyoming almost beat us in the Holiday bowl.
coldcoug
9/12/17 7:39pm
Games in November are going to suck either way with being independent or in a
kotacoug
9/12/17 4:02pm
Fresno, SJSU, UNLV, HI down the stretch would mean more if BYU were in the MWC
boscatar
9/13/17 8:35am
Lesser quality opponent is alright if the games count for something.
CougarinOZ
9/12/17 5:26pm
Nope. not a minority. I agree with him.
Pobs
9/13/17 2:30pm
Question: Do you have an issue with the targeting or targeting call? Just checking for credibility....
Refugee
9/12/17 3:13pm
RE: Question: Do you have an issue with the targeting or targeting call? Just
jrodute
9/12/17 3:27pm
Yes, on Sunia...
Refugee
9/12/17 3:33pm
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jrodute
9/12/17 3:26pm
MWC is the better short term option.
Big Time 55
9/12/17 3:31pm
See...this is what yewts hope and pray for more than for their team winning the
ol' Blue Eyes
9/12/17 3:55pm
RE: See...this is what yewts hope and pray for more than for their team winning
jrodute
9/12/17 4:07pm
I don't think the board is very split on this subject. There is a lot of
ray ray
9/12/17 5:49pm
I disagree. Utah's performance in
TFL
9/12/17 4:36pm
How many MWC championships did yewta win compared to BYU?
ol' Blue Eyes
9/12/17 4:55pm
RE: How many MWC championships did yewta win compared to BYU?
JustmeintheSLC
9/12/17 5:54pm
This years schedule is no better than a MW schedule. In a lot of ways it's worse
jackcrack7
9/12/17 4:25pm
There are many who think it's going backwards. It's not!! They are worried about
blackshirts
9/12/17 9:09pm
BYU would not schedule Utah, LSU, Wisconsin and Mississippi St. if in the MWC
boscatar
9/13/17 8:37am
Why not?
jackcrack7
9/13/17 9:24am
*Some of the OOC schedule - not the entire OOC schedule.
boscatar
9/13/17 9:39am
This year the schedule has 3 plus Utah.
jackcrack7
9/13/17 10:08am
Last year BYU had 6; next year 5. '20 has 6. '21 has 7. Can't do that w/ G5 sked
boscatar
9/13/17 10:33am
Troll much? Beyond TV exposure, better competition, and more money...
Stalwart Man
9/12/17 5:24pm
I'd move the school back to MWC so fast...ya'lls heads would spin
byuguns55
9/12/17 8:40pm
Less exposure...less money...fewer fun games...less prestige/recognition.
ol' Blue Eyes
9/12/17 9:56pm
Those are the founding lies of Independence
CougarinOZ
9/13/17 8:13am
Your first point is exactly why BYU is not in the MWC. The MWC didn't abide by an earlier agreement to allow
Rhino84
9/13/17 8:37am
AAC western expansion, that includes Boise St. and Gonzaga...
boscatar
9/13/17 8:37am
no way. pull back from the ledge.
Pobs
9/13/17 2:32pm
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