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Oct 22, 2014
10:13:55am

fredgarvin

Yep, they were not going to fire him, but they didn't try to stop him from

leaving either. People forget how loved Cleveland was for a while there; the program was in absolute shambles when he came in. Remember the "Cleveland rocks" promos BYU used to run?

He was the right guy for the right situation when BYU hired him. When he realized he had done all he could do with the program, he was ready to move on, to a situation that benefited both him and BYU.

Which is why BYU loves having him around, doing BYUTV, etc.

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I love it when the Fire Bronco crowd is asked who they want to replace him and

Real G Man

10/22/14 9:07am

Uncle Rico?

AtlantaCoug

10/22/14 9:08am

I don't mind that answer

Sea Chicken

10/22/14 9:09am

I once took Army to back to back national championships scoring with only field

Garn

10/22/14 9:12am

Haha! Great post! Was your record before that better than 6-34?

CougarBuckeye-BYUI

10/22/14 9:18am

Not neccisarily true. A fan of BYU that watches all their

BlueFrog

10/22/14 9:14am

The problem is, generally speaking, is they either have unreal expectaions i.e.

Jhayes

10/22/14 11:39am

What kills me is that they complain about Bronco being a DC and they want to

John Doe

10/22/14 9:16am

Logic not allowed here.

Iman23

10/22/14 9:17am

Good, because his post didn't have any.

messi

10/22/14 9:44am

And of course that makes you right . . . of course it does or something like

COUGAR_Blue_Avenger

10/22/14 12:10pm

its because they can't imagine it being much worse. losing 4 straight non p5

10/22/14 9:19am

"... but they're positive he would just step in and do better than Bronco has."

messi

10/22/14 9:41am

And what I do love is that when a person is named...

10/22/14 9:17am

Its the old known vrs unknown debate really.

bald man

10/22/14 9:19am

And that's where I kind of stand...

10/22/14 9:23am

I'm not sold on Sitake being HC material, and I'm not sure

bald man

10/22/14 9:27am

Sitaki has been coaching the LB's at Utah since 2005...

10/22/14 9:41am

The numbers sure suggest he knows what he is doing at DC and LB.

yfootball

10/22/14 1:46pm

Since joining the PAC, his numbers have been pretty average...

10/22/14 2:01pm

Right. I guess I am just more impressed with the numbers than you. But watching

yfootball

10/22/14 3:45pm

Oh no I'm still very impressed...

10/22/14 3:51pm

Well there is a good portion that degrade current coordinators for learning

BYUFam1

10/22/14 9:22am

If Bronco was hiring a coordinator that has had...

10/22/14 9:27am

BTW-Hill did have several years of position & coordinator experience before BYU

BYUFam1

10/22/14 9:40am

Hill actually had a decent defense in 2009...

10/22/14 9:46am

I only brought him up because he gets lumped with Doman/Howell

BYUFam1

10/22/14 9:54am

Crowton was HC at LaTech for 3 years.

bald man

10/22/14 9:27am

I failed to know that; just thought he was OC - I knew Bears OC right before BYU

BYUFam1

10/22/14 9:41am

would you have picked rose to replace Cleveland? Yet they took the leap and did

Mayor of Cougartown

10/22/14 9:18am

Cleveland also tanked hard. Bronco may end up with that this year

bald man

10/22/14 9:20am

Cleveland left on his own. Somebody had to be hired.

hansel

10/22/14 9:26am

riiiigggghhhht. Left on his own, Good one.

Mayor of Cougartown

10/22/14 9:32am

I don't think I'm revealing classified information here. Pretty well-known that

hansel

10/22/14 9:41am

yes it was. He was going to be fired, that job popped up and he took it and

Mayor of Cougartown

10/22/14 9:46am

link?

hansel

10/22/14 9:47am

Think about it. If he were killing it at BYU and had a team in place to

Mayor of Cougartown

10/22/14 9:54am

That's your version. Here's Dick Harmon's

hansel

10/22/14 10:01am

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Abe Froman

10/22/14 11:18am

They didn't let Cleveland go, he left for for a gig in his hometown

boyblue

10/22/14 9:33am

The guy brought BYU hoops back from the absolute dead and had five

hansel

10/22/14 9:44am

agreed

boyblue

10/22/14 9:45am

disagree.

Mayor of Cougartown

10/22/14 9:47am

Here, read these

hansel

10/22/14 9:52am

ok, I'll concede...sorta... he really let himself and BYU off the hook

Mayor of Cougartown

10/22/14 10:00am

Yep, they were not going to fire him, but they didn't try to stop him from

fredgarvin

10/22/14 10:13am

So you want them to take Tom Holmoe's job then?

lawboy

10/22/14 9:28am

I love how they think these inexperienced coaches are guaranteed to do better

boyblue

10/22/14 9:31am

These people you're describing don't exist.

swingcat

10/22/14 4:47pm

It depends on your perspective, I guess.

10/22/14 9:33am

My only request from Mr. Holmoe and the Board of Trustees is that if Bronco is

Faceman

10/22/14 9:34am

It reminds me of a time when I asked this question

bigbluecougar

10/22/14 9:34am

That crowd has had a number of suggestions. Some pie in the sky

unctoothman

10/22/14 9:39am

1) I've heard tons of suggestions 2) yes, it really is not CB's job to find a HC

Non-mo Coug

10/22/14 9:56am

I love it when the Keep Bronco crowd doesn't realize he wasn't even our own

10/22/14 10:12am

He wasn't my first choice, but in retrospect, I think he was the right choice.

10/22/14 10:24am

I actually agree with you. I just think its time to move on.

10/22/14 10:28am

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Abe Froman

10/22/14 10:48am

Maybe a better way to say it is "conveniently ignore"

10/22/14 11:36am

If Bronco had it his way, a walkon would replace him.

Veracruz

10/22/14 12:41pm

*cough* Howell *cough*

slowhiteguy

10/22/14 12:49pm

RE: Thanks. You hit the nail on the head.

Coogar2

10/22/14 1:07pm

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