Why is "cost too high" for more BYUs?

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Jul 5, 2015
7:02:34pm

BamaCoug

Why is "cost too high" for more BYUs?

We've got a great brand going/growing (especially academically) and even places like SVU have popped up to meet a regional vacuum in demand. The church has a VERY LARGE budget and I can't think of any expenditures that have a greater ROI than getting good LDS kids to and educated at and graduated from church-run schools. Church statistics show that graduating from a church-run school is THE NUMBER ONE predictor of life-long activity in the church ... higher than serving a mission or getting married in the temple or being a seminary or Institute graduate.

So why not start more BYUs?!?!?

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BYU is becoming an elite academic institution. Was that intended?

Mister P

6/30/15 8:26am

Yes, my understanding is they want Institute strong

KingDave

6/30/15 8:29am

Institute, LDSBC, BYUI and the Pathways program

Snorky

6/30/15 8:30am

If they don't raise academic standards

Sea Chicken

6/30/15 8:30am

Guys who can get hand-TNT-down dates

TNT

6/30/15 8:31am

They need to up research before they're truly elite (by a lot)

6/30/15 8:30am

This discussion has been going on a long time. BYU-I pushed BYU toward elitism.

CosmoK

6/30/15 8:30am

I'd like to see BYU or BYUI offer more 100% online degrees. I realize I may be

Mister P

6/30/15 8:35am

BYUI is much closer to that with Pathways.

KingDave

6/30/15 8:37am

BYUI offers 11 degrees 100% online.

kalifi

6/30/15 8:44am

For selfish reasons, I'd like to see some online Masters degrees

Mister P

6/30/15 8:52am

More like the other way around.

kccougar

6/30/15 8:35am

I think that's a natural consequence of more people applying

Yoshinobu

6/30/15 8:31am

Plus I would expect the administration to improve the quality of education

mudpupper

6/30/15 8:33am

a couple years ago 97% of those who applied to a BYU got in

v1k0u6

6/30/15 8:38am

Are you referring to BYU and BYUI as a whole? I can't imagine 97% of

Mister P

6/30/15 8:40am

I think you mean "decades" not "years"

KingDave

6/30/15 8:42am

Tour i went on friday suggested 50% of applicants get into BYU.

6/30/15 8:43am

BYU is dipping below 50%, BYUI around 98%.

wYred

6/30/15 8:45am

It hasn't been 97% since at least 1968

mobius

6/30/15 8:48am

"A" BYU, one of the three.

v1k0u6

6/30/15 9:03am

??...BYU 50% acceptance, BYUI 99%, BYUH 36%... BYU largest of 3 by far...

wYred

6/30/15 9:15am

so people willing to go to any of the BYUs are able to

v1k0u6

6/30/15 9:34am

My daughter has a 4.0-been waiting her whole life to go to BYU-didn't get in

Wear Blue

6/30/15 11:01pm

It bugs me. I would rather BYU would expand enrollment. I dont think acadameia

6/30/15 8:41am

RE: However when they met with the academic advisers...

Dread Pirate Westley

6/30/15 8:47am

Why did he decline? Was it a result of his experience on the tour?

Iman23

6/30/15 8:48am

Not directly, but the school he chose did a much better job of selling him on

Dread Pirate Westley

6/30/15 9:04am

This is a tricky situation. Your cousin could no doubt benefit from BYU, but

Iman23

6/30/15 8:48am

Yeah thats the council i would give to her for her application.

6/30/15 8:51am

She might consider some options.

Roadrunner70

6/30/15 8:55am

The issue with going to another school then transfering is that she will be a

6/30/15 9:02am

Apparently the Honor Code interrogation rooms aren't part of the campus tours.

mikeynolikey

6/30/15 11:15am

We drove past the testing center

6/30/15 11:19am

About 20 years ago, I went to one of those four hour Priesthood Leadership

Acorn

6/30/15 8:42am

I've heard that BYUI expects to grow to 30k.

bluecheese

6/30/15 9:37am

I think the Church needs a new university in the midwest or on the east coast.

Baron

6/30/15 8:44am

It would be in Brazil or Mexico..another one in the US would be great, but it

Iman23

6/30/15 8:49am

Possibly. It is just sad that BYU-Idaho is in Idaho. It would serve the church

Baron

6/30/15 8:54am

The church has no desire to increase enrollment or create new schools.

wYred

6/30/15 8:49am

Isn't there a CES hiring freeze for S&I?

vaquero

6/30/15 10:15am

Seminary is not institute and there are different ways then full time paid...

wYred

6/30/15 10:47am

BYU is now becoming the destination for the nerdiest among our youth

6/30/15 8:53am

Whu???....Have you been to a football game in the last 10 years? Most of my

db59840

6/30/15 8:57am

Does BYU Idaho promote BYU sports? I sure hope so. That would be a way to

Mister P

6/30/15 8:57am

Myth Alert

gwalker

6/30/15 8:58am

A very 80s view of kids who get good grades.

6/30/15 10:04am

Hardly.

kccougar

6/30/15 12:04pm

I interviewed at BYU for a faculty position a few years ago, and met with

midwestcoug

6/30/15 9:06am

The church could buy much of Rexburg if it wanted to.

mudpupper

6/30/15 9:39am

Can't be a flagship State University without

Bert609

6/30/15 9:54am

That would be amazing!

Mister P

6/30/15 9:57am

Why is "cost too high" for more BYUs?

BamaCoug

7/5/15 7:02pm

I imagine diminishing returns. Also, how much more demand is there?

CosmoK

7/5/15 7:59pm

Fair points ... but I really think there is some regionality bias.

BamaCoug

7/5/15 11:04pm

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